Your welcome Nez Pierce.

[snowpack]

You guys that claim the op was calling from the road, how do you know that? How do you know the guy wasn't way off the road and the native wasnt a really good long range shot?

Exactly. Im thinking he was on the far hillside and calling a bull up from the bottom. truck comes driving down the ridge and shoots the bull across the canyon from the road. anything like that could have happened. its just wrong that you even have to worry about that in archery season.

How is it wrong?  The tribal member was within his legal rights correct? Weather you or I or anyone else agrees with it we are here.

Its wrong because he was in is legal rights. thats the wrong part. anyone in there right mind would agree with that except tribal members.

I think it would've been just as legal for a bunch of non-tribal guys with bull permits to be cruising the roads and all bail out of their lifted F350s covered in hunting decals.  Then they run up ahead of hunter already calling and basically low hole him flinging arrows.  Same effect, different group.  Still as unsportsmanlike.

[The100Road]

You guys that claim the op was calling from the road, how do you know that? How do you know the guy wasn't way off the road and the native wasnt a really good long range shot?

Exactly. Im thinking he was on the far hillside and calling a bull up from the bottom. truck comes driving down the ridge and shoots the bull across the canyon from the road. anything like that could have happened. its just wrong that you even have to worry about that in archery season.

How is it wrong?  The tribal member was within his legal rights correct? Weather you or I or anyone else agrees with it we are here.

Its wrong because he was in is legal rights. thats the wrong part. anyone in there right mind would agree with that except tribal members.

I think it would've been just as legal for a bunch of non-tribal guys with bull permits to be cruising the roads and all bail out of their lifted F350s covered in hunting decals.  Then they run up ahead of hunter already calling and basically low hole him flinging arrows.  Same effect, different group.  Still as unsportsmanlike.

Very true, But running up and flinging arrows is okay in archery season. they never would have gotten a shot at the bull. it would have been long gone. but shooting a 300 yard shot from the road with a rifle during the rut is not the same.

[Green broke]

You guys that claim the op was calling from the road, how do you know that? How do you know the guy wasn't way off the road and the native wasnt a really good long range shot?

Exactly. Im thinking he was on the far hillside and calling a bull up from the bottom. truck comes driving down the ridge and shoots the bull across the canyon from the road. anything like that could have happened. its just wrong that you even have to worry about that in archery season.

How is it wrong?  The tribal member was within his legal rights correct? Weather you or I or anyone else agrees with it we are here.

Its wrong because he was in is legal rights. thats the wrong part. anyone in there right mind would agree with that except tribal members.

I think it would've been just as legal for a bunch of non-tribal guys with bull permits to be cruising the roads and all bail out of their lifted F350s covered in hunting decals.  Then they run up ahead of hunter already calling and basically low hole him flinging arrows.  Same effect, different group.  Still as unsportsmanlike.

Very true, But running up and flinging arrows is okay in archery season. they never would have gotten a shot at the bull. it would have been long gone. but shooting a 300 yard shot from the road with a rifle during the rut is not the same.

There are no rifle rut tags issued by the dfw?

[The100Road]

Yes, very few. that people could wait a lifetime for and spend lots of money applying for. I dont know of any tags that get given to you yearly because of your race except indians.

[turkeyfeather]

You guys that claim the op was calling from the road, how do you know that? How do you know the guy wasn't way off the road and the native wasnt a really good long range shot?

Exactly. Im thinking he was on the far hillside and calling a bull up from the bottom. truck comes driving down the ridge and shoots the bull across the canyon from the road. anything like that could have happened. its just wrong that you even have to worry about that in archery season.

How is it wrong?  The tribal member was within his legal rights correct? Weather you or I or anyone else agrees with it we are here.

Its wrong because he was in is legal rights. thats the wrong part. anyone in there right mind would agree with that except tribal members.

I think it would've been just as legal for a bunch of non-tribal guys with bull permits to be cruising the roads and all bail out of their lifted F350s covered in hunting decals.  Then they run up ahead of hunter already calling and basically low hole him flinging arrows.  Same effect, different group.  Still as unsportsmanlike.

Very true, But running up and flinging arrows is okay in archery season. they never would have gotten a shot at the bull. it would have been long gone. but shooting a 300 yard shot from the road with a rifle during the rut is not the same.

There are no rifle rut tags issued by the dfw?

Your referring to a hypothetical, we are talking about an ACTUAL event that took place.

[snowpack]

 There are no rifle rut tags issued by the dfw?

most rut permits don't overlap weapons.  I think only the raffle/governor's tags do.  The special draws and incentive tags make you hunt in between the seasons or with the weapon allowed during the open season.

[PlateauNDN]

itll never change..just like selling um whole to migrant workers in wapato and toppenish for $50

Thanks for the response via PM and I'd like to respond in open since you chose to add your opinion on the matter.  Maybe next time you and your best friends, who are Yakama, go hunting try not to harvest a truck full of bulls again by mud lake when its closed.  Or all those other times you guys loaded up the truck and have so much extra (deer and elk) meat you don't know what to do with it.  And yes, I recall all the stories and pictures you were so happy to share and so did several other Yakamas that told me you were willing to share them.  You complaining sounds a little hypocritical to me.

[turkeyfeather]

itll never change..just like selling um whole to migrant workers in wapato and toppenish for $50

Thanks for the response via PM and I'd like to respond in open since you chose to add your opinion on the matter.  Maybe next time you and your best friends, who are Yakama, go hunting try not to harvest a truck full of bulls again by mud lake when its closed.  Or all those other times you guys loaded up the truck and have so much extra (deer and elk) meat you don't know what to do with it.  And yes, I recall all the stories and pictures you were so happy to share and so did several other Yakamas that told me you were willing to share them.  You complaining sounds a little hypocritical to me.

So your saying bowhunter is one of "those guys"? Interesting!

[Green broke]

Your ignorance of native  American hunting tradition and culture is  mind boggling!
Don't you know the long standing  tradition of Natives harvesting game while sitting on their horses (Toyota pick up trucks)?

Toyota Corp just released a special native  "funeral edition "  truck used to harvest special funeral bulls and large muley bucks in their winter.( The special empty beer cans accessory  in the truck bed are extra according to Toyota)  Even blonde haired blued eyed native card holders can drive it! Proceeds form the racks sold on eBay and craigslist go to help children in native schools learn about their hallowed hunting traditions.
 

Can hardly wait to dive behind a tree this year to avoid being shot  by the great traditional hunters who to bail out their horses and shoot towards me  while I am chasing a cow the  late season in in the Nile.

Other than type of weapon I don't see the problem it happens all the time.   get further from the road next time.

How come indians don't get off the road? Sounds pretty lazy to me...

Because that would actually be hunting and they dont want to break "tradition"

Good stuff ribka.... Very ignorant statement.  You have no clue how much importance and emotion is put into hunting for funerals.  I am trying to keep it civil but statements like this make me want to exit these conversations. It is actually quite difficult to hunt with a heavy heart while a loved one is waiting for their final resting place.

[PlateauNDN]

You guys that claim the op was calling from the road, how do you know that? How do you know the guy wasn't way off the road and the native wasnt a really good long range shot?

Exactly. Im thinking he was on the far hillside and calling a bull up from the bottom. truck comes driving down the ridge and shoots the bull across the canyon from the road. anything like that could have happened. its just wrong that you even have to worry about that in archery season.

How is it wrong?  The tribal member was within his legal rights correct? Weather you or I or anyone else agrees with it we are here.

Its wrong because he was in is legal rights. thats the wrong part. anyone in there right mind would agree with that except tribal members.

I think it would've been just as legal for a bunch of non-tribal guys with bull permits to be cruising the roads and all bail out of their lifted F350s covered in hunting decals.  Then they run up ahead of hunter already calling and basically low hole him flinging arrows.  Same effect, different group.  Still as unsportsmanlike.

Very true, But running up and flinging arrows is okay in archery season. they never would have gotten a shot at the bull. it would have been long gone. but shooting a 300 yard shot from the road with a rifle during the rut is not the same.

There are no rifle rut tags issued by the dfw?

Your referring to a hypothetical, we are talking about an ACTUAL event that took place.

What's hypothetical about it? I've seen this hapen not word for wordbut the scenario plus I've seen similar stories on youtube of unethical bow hunters.  Wasnt there a video posted on here of a guy stopping and jumping out of his truck chasing down a buck with his bow?

[PlateauNDN]

Ribka and green, I know where you're both coming from in regards to the funeral issue and there are timea where its abused and that does need to stop but not always.  I've provided for families in that situation and its a difficult times.  Again this isn't downplaying or saying the other side isn't any less emotional or insignificant.

[Green broke]

You guys that claim the op was calling from the road, how do you know that? How do you know the guy wasn't way off the road and the native wasnt a really good long range shot?

Exactly. Im thinking he was on the far hillside and calling a bull up from the bottom. truck comes driving down the ridge and shoots the bull across the canyon from the road. anything like that could have happened. its just wrong that you even have to worry about that in archery season.

How is it wrong?  The tribal member was within his legal rights correct? Weather you or I or anyone else agrees with it we are here.

Its wrong because he was in is legal rights. thats the wrong part. anyone in there right mind would agree with that except tribal members.

I think it would've been just as legal for a bunch of non-tribal guys with bull permits to be cruising the roads and all bail out of their lifted F350s covered in hunting decals.  Then they run up ahead of hunter already calling and basically low hole him flinging arrows.  Same effect, different group.  Still as unsportsmanlike.

Very true, But running up and flinging arrows is okay in archery season. they never would have gotten a shot at the bull. it would have been long gone. but shooting a 300 yard shot from the road with a rifle during the rut is not the same.

There are no rifle rut tags issued by the dfw?

Your referring to a hypothetical, we are talking about an ACTUAL event that took place.

It's an area open to more than one user group, both attempting to harvest am animal.

[furbearer365]

All you Pro-Native hunting rights guys keep saying that they were within their legal right.  THAT IS THE PROBLEM.  YOU GUYS GET THE LEGAL RIGHT TO SHOOT ELK WITH A RIFLE FROM A ROAD WHILE WE ARE DOWN IN THE CANYON WITH A BOW.  THEN YOU SAY THAT HE SHOULD OF GONE FARTHER OUT OF HIS WAY TO GET AWAY FROM THE TRUCKLOAD OF RIFLE WHEELING NATIVES JUST SO THEY DONT SHOOT IT OUT FROM UNDER HIM.  YOU HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY KIDDING ME, HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?  THE TREATY AND YOUR "HUNTING RIGHTS" WILL ALWAYS BE GARBAGE TO ME.  GOOD HUNTING TO YOU ALL

[trophyhunt]

All you Pro-Native hunting rights guys keep saying that they were within their legal right.  THAT IS THE PROBLEM.  YOU GUYS GET THE LEGAL RIGHT TO SHOOT ELK WITH A RIFLE FROM A ROAD WHILE WE ARE DOWN IN THE CANYON WITH A BOW.  THEN YOU SAY THAT HE SHOULD OF GONE FARTHER OUT OF HIS WAY TO GET AWAY FROM THE TRUCKLOAD OF RIFLE WHEELING NATIVES JUST SO THEY DONT SHOOT IT OUT FROM UNDER HIM.  YOU HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY KIDDING ME, HOW DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT?  THE TREATY AND YOUR "HUNTING RIGHTS" WILL ALWAYS BE GARBAGE TO ME.  GOOD HUNTING TO YOU ALL

unfortunetly they will sleep just fine, they know that their special rights will never be taken away. They really don't care how we feel, I just wish we could play cowboys and Indians again. It should have been handled differently 200 years ago, I won't say how because it would be very offensive but history should be different.

[PlateauNDN]

Good hunting to you as well and I sleep just fine.  Oh and read his story he wasn't down in the canyon he was on top trying to call them out of the canyon nearer the road.  Don't worry I don't use much gas just energy as I walk down into the deep dark canyons.