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Quote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.
It's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.
Quote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.
Quote from: Special T on September 15, 2013, 12:40:34 PMArguments are always directed by how they are stated/framed... What many of us SHOULD be upset about is how OUR government got out of control and how we are going to reign it in. Instead we fight amongst ourselves and only invite GOV to interfere MORE with our lives... Unfortunately that has worked for keeping hunters divided on MANY issues for a long time... Our infighting makes it easier for GOV to direct our frustration AWAY from the real cause. ill thank you turkey as I do all veterans because that's what I was taught. There us no question to my loyalties as a citizen of this Country because idefended it and continue to defend and standup for this Country. It just so happens I also am a member of a Tribe. My family has served this Country in every branch of the armed services going back to WWI so to say I insult or degrade anything is absurd.I've gone above and beyond on my own to deal with the abuses and violations and will continue on my own regardless of what anybody he thinks and believes so good day and enjoy the rest of this debate.
Arguments are always directed by how they are stated/framed... What many of us SHOULD be upset about is how OUR government got out of control and how we are going to reign it in. Instead we fight amongst ourselves and only invite GOV to interfere MORE with our lives... Unfortunately that has worked for keeping hunters divided on MANY issues for a long time... Our infighting makes it easier for GOV to direct our frustration AWAY from the real cause.
Quote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:02:09 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.I respectfully disagree.
Quote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:05:11 PMQuote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:02:09 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.I respectfully disagree. and that is the whole reason we are debating and why we have bad blood between us....... You guys don't want to play by the same rules! That's just a bit racist to me!
Quote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 01:13:41 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:05:11 PMQuote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:02:09 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.I respectfully disagree. and that is the whole reason we are debating and why we have bad blood between us....... You guys don't want to play by the same rules! That's just a bit racist to me!View it as you see fit. I will continue to work for effective management of a shared resource.
Quote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:05:11 PMQuote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:02:09 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.I respectfully disagree.How can you successfully co-manage when you clearly have two different agendas? It's simply not possible and history has proven that.
Quote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:19:09 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 01:13:41 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:05:11 PMQuote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:02:09 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.I respectfully disagree. and that is the whole reason we are debating and why we have bad blood between us....... You guys don't want to play by the same rules! That's just a bit racist to me!View it as you see fit. I will continue to work for effective management of a shared resource.To imply it's a shared resource implies it's available equally.
Quote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:05:11 PMI respectfully disagree. and that is the whole reason we are debating and why we have bad blood between us....... You guys don't want to play by the same rules! That's just a bit racist to me!
I respectfully disagree.
Quote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:11:20 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:05:11 PMQuote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:02:09 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.I respectfully disagree.How can you successfully co-manage when you clearly have two different agendas? It's simply not possible and history has proven that.And why would We OR Indians want to with the way the WDFW manages game? If i was Indian i wouldn't want to join the love fest for predators that the WDFW seems to push...
Quote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:22:59 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:19:09 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 01:13:41 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:05:11 PMQuote from: turkeyfeather on September 15, 2013, 01:02:09 PMQuote from: Green broke on September 15, 2013, 01:00:48 PMQuote from: trophyhunt on September 15, 2013, 12:57:22 PMIt's a one sided fight, the Indians have nothing to fight for. They have everything they want, they will never lose the rights they have. Our frustrations are probably not even on their radar, they could give two chits what we think. I bet they laugh their butts off when they have a pow pow about this subject.I think I started a thread that would be to the contrary. We need to co manage, period. It's a shared resource regardless of what opinions individuals hold. We do care and are taking action.But in order to co-manage we all need to be playing by the same rules.I respectfully disagree. and that is the whole reason we are debating and why we have bad blood between us....... You guys don't want to play by the same rules! That's just a bit racist to me!View it as you see fit. I will continue to work for effective management of a shared resource.To imply it's a shared resource implies it's available equally.As in a 50/50 split?