Your welcome Nez Pierce.

[turkeyfeather]

I respectfully disagree with you Plat. I think they are very different. 

[PlateauNDN]

I respectfully disagree with you Plat. I think they are very different. 

The Constitution is the Law of the Land Correct?  In the Consitution are the Laws at which we are governed by and must follow so if it says in there that our Treaties are our Constitutions and our Laws of the Land where does that leave them?  It takes an act of Congress to change anything in the Constitution and the same goes for our Treaties.  Only a supermajority vote of Congress can make those changes, so where are they different?

[turkeyfeather]

I respectfully disagree with you Plat. I think they are very different. 

The Constitution is the Law of the Land Correct?  In the Consitution are the Laws at which we are governed by and must follow so if it says in there that our Treaties are our Constitutions and our Laws of the Land where does that leave them?  It takes an act of Congress to change anything in the Constitution and the same goes for our Treaties.  Only a supermajority vote of Congress can make those changes, so where are they different?

One was written to establish the foundation of a nation. The other was written to establish peace between two groups of people. One was written to establish gov't, the other was written to establish rules and priveledges by that gov't. Not the same in my book.     Also, it takes an act of Congress to demote a E-9 in the military. That doesn't mean that he or she has the same authority as the constitution. Most all changes on a federal level take an act of congress. That doesn't mean anything.

[turkeyfeather]

I will also say that I empathize with you guys (plat and greeny). You have a tough uphill battle of trying to convince the majority that things are ok the way they are and should be left alone. And I have been willing to listen but it comes down to one simple thing to me. If you wanna live under the protection of the stars and stripes we are all equal and nobody is better or deserves anything more than anyone else could have.

[PlateauNDN]

again, as i stated we all have our own opinions. 

[Green broke]

I know way more natives that get out there and hustle, and set up cameras and scout then I know of lazy ones. 

I know envious Washington hunters that are always worried about what others have, but there is no way I would come out and cry about it since it is just a small group.
 
This is the exact reason I don't post any of the deer or elk I get, only the predators because that is accepted we are able to kill those.

Inchtown I have lots of praise and respect for the approach your tribe has taken and their management of game. I also know many natives that truly get after it and work for their animal.  If anything I see this tribal hunter trending to be the norm (like anything transition takes time).

[Green broke]

I will also say that I empathize with you guys (plat and greeny). You have a tough uphill battle of trying to convince the majority that things are ok the way they are and should be left alone. And I have been willing to listen but it comes down to one simple thing to me. If you wanna live under the protection of the stars and stripes we are all equal and nobody is better or deserves anything more than anyone else could have.

Some things need change. I have repeatedly said I'm for a more active role in game management. We are doing exactly that. Fyi there are many countries that are under U.S. protection that don't conform to the American ways.

[inchtowntracking]

We have some awesome game here, some huge bucks and bulls are taken every year. But there is no way I would post any of them up here. Some people don't agree with how lax our rules are, but I would say our game does just as good as Washington states without the crazy seasons and rules. I am waiting for thread on tribal seasons now. LOL

[BAR C3]

You guys all took the bait and swallowed it!

Until this guy gets on here and gives an accurate story, this is nothing more than high school drama. Thus the reason why everyone gets upset on here on there respectful opinions on the subject of Native hunting.
Personally I have wanted to fight guys over it until taking a deep breath and realizing its all over someone's word. My intent is to get on here and read positive stories of hunts and see pictures. The drama has to go! We all like the same things and may have some different opinions, but we should be getting along. Hell I picked a fight with the Naches Guide on here because of someone telling me something on here. My bad! Won't happen again.

I don't know how many guys have came on here and stirred up crap on Natives for it not to be true. Some have been.

There are people in the world who love to stir the pot! If I'm the original author, your going to hear the whole story, instead it appears he is sitting back laughing!

At least spell Nez Perce right! 

Till then, waiting to hear how you were in a Canyon and identified these guys has Natives, specifically Nez Perce.

GO SEAHAWKS!

[turkeyfeather]

I will also say that I empathize with you guys (plat and greeny). You have a tough uphill battle of trying to convince the majority that things are ok the way they are and should be left alone. And I have been willing to listen but it comes down to one simple thing to me. If you wanna live under the protection of the stars and stripes we are all equal and nobody is better or deserves anything more than anyone else could have.

Some things need change. I have repeatedly said I'm for a more active role in game management. We are doing exactly that. Fyi there are many countries that are under U.S. protection that don't conform to the American ways.

Right......I remember you want it all.

[gonehuntin68]

You guys all took the bait and swallowed it!

Until this guy gets on here and gives an accurate story, this is nothing more than high school drama. Thus the reason why everyone gets upset on here on there respectful opinions on the subject of Native hunting.
Personally I have wanted to fight guys over it until taking a deep breath and realizing its all over someone's word. My intent is to get on here and read positive stories of hunts and see pictures. The drama has to go! We all like the same things and may have some different opinions, but we should be getting along. Hell I picked a fight with the Naches Guide on here because of someone telling me something on here. My bad! Won't happen again.

I don't know how many guys have came on here and stirred up crap on Natives for it not to be true. Some have been.

There are people in the world who love to stir the pot! If I'm the original author, your going to hear the whole story, instead it appears he is sitting back laughing!

At least spell Nez Perce right! 

Till then, waiting to hear how you were in a Canyon and identified these guys has Natives, specifically Nez Perce.

GO SEAHAWKS!

What the hell story do you want? I was calling in some elk and boom some Indians shot them with rifles, bull was coming in, they listen for bugles drive to them and shoot. Its all legal for them and that makes me mad.

[Tbar]

How far from the road were you? Just curious. Do you really think they were waiting on your calls? It sounds more like mission accomplished, pot stirred. 

[gonehuntin68]

How far from the road were you? Just curious. Do you really think they were waiting on your calls? It sounds more like mission accomplished, pot stirred. 

About 500 yards or so. I never said it was a dumb way to hunt pretty smart really, just wish we all had to follow same rules.

[BAR C3]

You guys all took the bait and swallowed it!

Until this guy gets on here and gives an accurate story, this is nothing more than high school drama. Thus the reason why everyone gets upset on here on there respectful opinions on the subject of Native hunting.
Personally I have wanted to fight guys over it until taking a deep breath and realizing its all over someone's word. My intent is to get on here and read positive stories of hunts and see pictures. The drama has to go! We all like the same things and may have some different opinions, but we should be getting along. Hell I picked a fight with the Naches Guide on here because of someone telling me something on here. My bad! Won't happen again.

I don't know how many guys have came on here and stirred up crap on Natives for it not to be true. Some have been.

There are people in the world who love to stir the pot! If I'm the original author, your going to hear the whole story, instead it appears he is sitting back laughing!

At least spell Nez Perce right! 

Till then, waiting to hear how you were in a Canyon and identified these guys has Natives, specifically Nez Perce.

GO SEAHAWKS!

What the hell story do you want? I was calling in some elk and boom some Indians shot them with rifles, bull was coming in, they listen for bugles drive to them and shoot. Its all legal for them and that makes me mad.

Ok it makes you mad! Still haven't answered my questions! If you were in a canyon calling, how were you able to tell it was Indians? Nez Perce? Where was this? Blue Mountains? Don't need specifics, trying to eliminate which tribe, Nez Perce don't hunt Westside. 
If your calling by a road, your asking for it.
You say you were calling in some elk? Was the whole herd coming?  You said they shot them..... Did they shoot several???

Just calling it like I see it. Not adding up, and once again, guys are going back and forth over something that don't add up.

If you don't like the laws, title it as such and make the argument.

[Mudman]

I don't think we should be angry at tribal hunting or such.  They are doing exactly what we have told/allowed them to do.  Treaty set.  Honor it as best we can until it is changed.  Whether or not its abused or the tribal members are respectfull of others is the question.  What to do about it?  The tribes it seems must handle this issue internally better.  That said I think it was a HUGE mistake to ever sign these treaties.  We should have conquered tribes completely.  That is how its been done for thousands of years and for a reason like this too.  Their treaty rights will disappear just as our const. rights are.  Unfortunate but in their best interest to maintain good public relatons.  I think many Natives aren't to proud of the bad apples of their group.  I personally hate the treaty concept and the archaic application applied today to a 1800's agreement.  We should all play by the same rules.