17 hornet

[bugs n bones]

Anyone tried one out? I'm interested in that chiappa mini sharps

[bugs n bones]

Nobody?

[Heredoggydoggy]

I'm not a big fan of Chiappa.  However, I did see a Chiappa .45 Colt SAA (made by Uberti)  that looked pretty nice.  Guess it depends on who makes it.

[mackdaddy]

I have a Ruger 77/17 Hornet. Great shooter and fun playing with the reloading. Still trying to figure out what powder Hornaday is using in their 20gr. V-max factory loads.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I have a Ruger 77/17 Hornet. Great shooter and fun playing with the reloading. Still trying to figure out what powder Hornaday is using in their 20gr. V-max factory loads.

Try "Lil'Gun"  It was designed for small cases.  8208 XBR powder is really good too.  It's real temperature stable.  When I first started reloading for my .22 Hornet, all the articles I read said that IMR 4198 was the most accurate powder.  (17 Fireball, too) and after trying several powders I found that they were correct!  I'd start with those, and see what your gun likes...

[mackdaddy]

Thanks Doggie. Using lil Gun now. Trying to figure out what Hornady is using in factory loads. It is 12.5 gr of a much finer powder. Not Superformance either, I have that as well.

[Heredoggydoggy]

Don't know what Hornady is using.  Some of the European ammo makers are using Vutavohri.  Spelling of that may be off.

[fastdam]

H110 is a great powder for lighter hornet bullets.

[Bill W]

I have a Kimber of Oregon in .17 Ackley Hornet that I've owned for about 20 years now.   KoA did some limited run chamberings back before they went belly up and I ended up with the .17 Ackley Hornet and a .22 K Hornet.

The load for the .17 is a case full of IMR 4198.  This came from a Kimber book that was written from a Mike somebody who worked for Hunting and Fishing news at the time. 

I would be leery of using H110 in a bottlenecked Hornet case unless it's in a major reloading book..  H110 works with the .22 Hornet along with Win 296.  The regular Hornet is a long angled neck.

[Heredoggydoggy]

The latest .17 Hornet differs in shoulder angle and length-to-shoulder from the 17 Ackley Hornet.  Otherwise they're pretty much the same.  I researched the .22 K-Hornet when I got one, and found that there were about 4 variations of the K-Hornet over the years.  Actually, I got a K-Hornet reamer and turned my hornet into a K-Hornet.  When I called to get the reamer, I ordered 2 pilots with it, one was the same pilot that Cooper uses when he makes his guns, and the other is the smallest pilot bushing available.  I must have an old Hornet, bored in .223 instead of .224, because neither bushing would go into my bore.  I ended up using the reamer without a bushing--just the pilot shaft.  I also K'd a friend's CZ .22 Hornet too, and neither bushing would go into his bore either.  I emailed CZ to find out what their bore diameter was but never got a reply... 

[mackdaddy]

I heard back from Hornady technical. The powder used in the V-max 20 gr ammunition factory load is not available to the public.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I heard back from Hornady technical. The powder used in the V-max 20 gr ammunition factory load is not available to the public.

I'm not surprised.

[Bill W]

The latest .17 Hornet differs in shoulder angle and length-to-shoulder from the 17 Ackley Hornet.  Otherwise they're pretty much the same.  I researched the .22 K-Hornet when I got one, and found that there were about 4 variations of the K-Hornet over the years.  Actually, I got a K-Hornet reamer and turned my hornet into a K-Hornet.  When I called to get the reamer, I ordered 2 pilots with it, one was the same pilot that Cooper uses when he makes his guns, and the other is the smallest pilot bushing available.  I must have an old Hornet, bored in .223 instead of .224, because neither bushing would go into my bore.  I ended up using the reamer without a bushing--just the pilot shaft.  I also K'd a friend's CZ .22 Hornet too, and neither bushing would go into his bore either.  I emailed CZ to find out what their bore diameter was but never got a reply... 

That's one thing about wildcats.  There's a few different variations of them. 

The .17 Ackley Hornet has a sharp shoulder angle.  Factories prefer a less sharper angle as it's easier to manufacture the cases.   

I bought the .22 K Hornet as it had a 14 inch twist barrel instead of the old standard of a 16 inch twist.

[RadSav]

Our WY antelope guide switched from the 204 to the 17 Hornet and says it's the best move he has ever made.  He absolutely loves it for coyotes and prairie dogs.  He was testing a lot of loads for it while I was there since he could not get the Hornady stuff...which he liked.  I can try and get his gun/load data if you are interested.

[mackdaddy]

That would be great RadSav. I like the Hornady stuff as well but I can not duplicate it at home. So the next best is to find a recipe with the same or better results.