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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #60 on: October 16, 2013, 12:06:10 PM »
Fear, which often can contribute to ignorance....... 

I see a lot on here though with this insane desire by folks  to want to kill everything.  :dunno:

The Eastern Diamondback is on the brink of extinction because of fear and ignorance.
It is needless and they deserve respect.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2013, 12:12:01 PM »
I do not tolerate rattlers in areas that I hunt or camp.  The same as I wish I could treat wolves, it's not a hatred thing.  They simply don't fit into my equation. 

It's not that I enjoy killing them for fun.  I am also one who helps bullsnakes out of the road...because they eat rattlers  :chuckle:

Scout/Sniper you're a cool dude but there are people who've the exact same thing about wolves for years

The Eastern Diamondback is on the brink of extinction because of fear and ignorance.
It is needless and they deserve respect.

My Dad and I spend a lot of time on some property in Spokane County that he purchased.  He kills every single rattler we see there because he doesn't want them there.  Is there anything wrong with that?   :dunno: he's got grandkids and dogs running there all the time and he'd rather not risk it.

The same some people do with coyotes right?  Is the annual coyote contest disrespectful towards 'yotes?  Do they deserve less respect simply because they're plentiful?

Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2013, 12:19:17 PM »
I do not tolerate rattlers in areas that I hunt or camp.  The same as I wish I could treat wolves, it's not a hatred thing.  They simply don't fit into my equation. 

It's not that I enjoy killing them for fun.  I am also one who helps bullsnakes out of the road...because they eat rattlers  :chuckle:

Scout/Sniper you're a cool dude but there are people who've the exact same thing about wolves for years

The Eastern Diamondback is on the brink of extinction because of fear and ignorance.
It is needless and they deserve respect.

My Dad and I spend a lot of time on some property in Spokane County that he purchased.  He kills every single rattler we see there because he doesn't want them there.  Is there anything wrong with that?   :dunno: he's got grandkids and dogs running there all the time and he'd rather not risk it.

The same some people do with coyotes right?  Is the annual coyote contest disrespectful towards 'yotes?  Do they deserve less respect simply because they're plentiful?
Not at all. I understand dangerous animals around the house.
I wouldn't want them around my home and kids either, I just keep them in my home :chuckle:

It's the guy that is out in the wilderness enjoying nature and comes across a snake and just can't help but kill it.
They do everything possible to avoid contact with humans. Leave them alone.
All I am saying is to let them be if you can.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2013, 12:20:19 PM »
i personally would love to spend a day getn a few rattlers, we from the west side only see gardener snakes  :chuckle: but i would really like to have a few rattler skins hangn on the wall, hell i would even kill them with a stick or somethn to make it a little more sporty. i know zero about rattle snakes, i would rather catch a few alive and maybe get their venom out and then turn them loose, well after i have a few skins to put on the wall  :tup:
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2013, 12:23:09 PM »
i personally would love to spend a day getn a few rattlers, we from the west side only see gardener snakes  :chuckle: but i would really like to have a few rattler skins hangn on the wall, hell i would even kill them with a stick or somethn to make it a little more sporty. i know zero about rattle snakes, i would rather catch a few alive and maybe get their venom out and then turn them loose, well after i have a few skins to put on the wall  :tup:
Go with someone experienced, they are fast and nasty.
You cannot keep a live venomous snake in WA.
I'm pretty sure you can't kill them just for sport either.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2013, 12:28:40 PM »
no wouldnt keep it, but isnt there a way to get their venom out by pushing their fangs over a jar? dont know what i would do with it but it would be fun. would you be up for taken me out? i would rather go with someone that respected them than someone that hated them. i would only whack the ones you told me to.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2013, 12:34:01 PM »
no wouldnt keep it, but isnt there a way to get their venom out by pushing their fangs over a jar? dont know what i would do with it but it would be fun. would you be up for taken me out? i would rather go with someone that respected them than someone that hated them. i would only whack the ones you told me to.
Yes I would like to go a snake trip next spring when they come out of brumation.
You can milk the venom with a jar and latex over the top.
It's dangerous because they can rotate their fangs and bite to the side and get your thumb.
You don't want to get bit by these guys, it's very unpleasent.
I need to study the laws on messing with them in the wild.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2013, 12:44:51 PM »
I couldn't find any rattlesnake specific laws.  They would be covered under animal cruelty laws I am sure but I think killing is only discouraged by WDFW and if done humanely is legal. 

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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2013, 12:55:51 PM »
I couldn't find any rattlesnake specific laws.  They would be covered under animal cruelty laws I am sure but I think killing is only discouraged by WDFW and if done humanely is legal.

Thanks,
I read somehting about any animal not listed as a game animal being protected.
I know the laws on ownership very intimately, but not wild ones.
I will look more closely.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2013, 12:58:39 PM »
They have a round-up every year somewhere in the E. part of the state. You don't need a license to kill them.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2013, 12:58:53 PM »
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The same some people do with coyotes right?
That's an interesting thought.   Yes, I do.  Hmmmmm.  Maybe I feel like I am protecting something else by splattering them.    8)

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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2013, 01:02:15 PM »
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The same some people do with coyotes right?
That's an interesting thought.   Yes, I do.  Hmmmmm.  Maybe I feel like I am protecting something else by splattering them.    8)
There are definately differences in reasons to kill the two species.
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2013, 01:22:25 PM »
Yeah I understand it wasn't an apples to apples comparison, it was just a familiar one.  Of course rattlesnakes are not a detrimental factor to the deer herds   :chuckle:

I will continue to whack every coyote that I see and understand I might be saving a fawn or two or twelve.  I'll also kill a cougar and bear every chance I'm legally given.
Kindly do not attempt to cloud the issue with too many facts.

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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2013, 01:34:24 PM »
Yeah I understand it wasn't an apples to apples comparison, it was just a familiar one.  Of course rattlesnakes are not a detrimental factor to the deer herds   :chuckle:

I will continue to whack every coyote that I see and understand I might be saving a fawn or two or twelve.  I'll also kill a cougar and bear every chance I'm legally given.
Your point was understood so not worth arguing about, we are not far apart on things  :tup:
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Re: Rattlers out and about
« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2013, 02:05:28 PM »
no wouldnt keep it, but isnt there a way to get their venom out by pushing their fangs over a jar? dont know what i would do with it but it would be fun. would you be up for taken me out? i would rather go with someone that respected them than someone that hated them. i would only whack the ones you told me to.
Yes I would like to go a snake trip next spring when they come out of brumation.
You can milk the venom with a jar and latex over the top.
It's dangerous because they can rotate their fangs and bite to the side and get your thumb.
You don't want to get bit by these guys, it's very unpleasent.
I need to study the laws on messing with them in the wild.
scout that would be awesome, i have always wanted to go. how big do they get? i would want to track down the biggest ones there are, more sport dont ya think  :chuckle: is there any use for the venom from a rattler that you know of  :dunno:
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