Rattlers out and about

[scout/sniper]

no wouldnt keep it, but isnt there a way to get their venom out by pushing their fangs over a jar? dont know what i would do with it but it would be fun. would you be up for taken me out? i would rather go with someone that respected them than someone that hated them. i would only whack the ones you told me to.

Yes I would like to go a snake trip next spring when they come out of brumation.
You can milk the venom with a jar and latex over the top.
It's dangerous because they can rotate their fangs and bite to the side and get your thumb.
You don't want to get bit by these guys, it's very unpleasent.
I need to study the laws on messing with them in the wild.

scout that would be awesome, i have always wanted to go. how big do they get? i would want to track down the biggest ones there are, more sport dont ya think  is there any use for the venom from a rattler that you know of 

They get around 3.5 ft. and heavy bodied.
Venom is used to make anti-venom serum but you have to meet FDA regulations to produce it for them.
I would not try to collect venom, it puts you too close the business end for my comfort.
We could try to hook up with someone on here to take us to them. That would be cool.
Of course I would be the dork taking measurements and weights 
We should definately put something together for the spring.

[jackmaster]

definatly in, any experts out there that know where to find them so me and scout can get some measurments and weights and so i can collect a couple skins, i gotta try atleast once to get the venom out, it sounds like it could be quite the rush   

[scout/sniper]

definatly in, any experts out there that know where to find them so me and scout can get some measurments and weights and so i can collect a couple skins, i gotta try atleast once to get the venom out, it sounds like it could be quite the rush   

Sounds great.
If you really want to get venom I will show you how to handle them BEFORE we get there! 

[jackmaster]

definatly in, any experts out there that know where to find them so me and scout can get some measurments and weights and so i can collect a couple skins, i gotta try atleast once to get the venom out, it sounds like it could be quite the rush   

Sounds great.
If you really want to get venom I will show you how to handle them BEFORE we get there! 

definatly in, hey scout i work with a guy that says he knows a place where there are tons of snakes, he will show ud where but he said there isnt anyway in hell that he would go with us, as he is a reall sissy lala and is scared to death or them you should see him when i fling a gardner snake at him, its pretty comical

[scout/sniper]

definatly in, any experts out there that know where to find them so me and scout can get some measurments and weights and so i can collect a couple skins, i gotta try atleast once to get the venom out, it sounds like it could be quite the rush   

Sounds great.
If you really want to get venom I will show you how to handle them BEFORE we get there! 

definatly in, hey scout i work with a guy that says he knows a place where there are tons of snakes, he will show ud where but he said there isnt anyway in hell that he would go with us, as he is a reall sissy lala and is scared to death or them you should see him when i fling a gardner snake at him, its pretty comical

That's the place to go!

[magnanimous_j]

The shot for dogs is reasonable. Only 35.00 from my vet.

Yup, same here.  Seems like cheap insurance if your dog will be around snakes.  Now why they don't have a version for people for $35 I have no idea 

There is much more liability making a drug for humans. My guess is that if you took a dose of the dog anti-venom that was appropriate for your body weight, it would work just fine.

I knew a guy who used an antibiotic for aquarium fish to clear up the clap because he thought his wife would find out if he got it from the pharmacy.

[KopperBuck]

The argument for not killing bullsnakes because they kill rattlesnakes doesn't hold much water if any. Just a myth.

[Jonathan_S]

The argument for not killing bullsnakes because they kill rattlesnakes doesn't hold much water if any. Just a myth.

So if I've seen it happen it's a myth?   

[scout/sniper]

There is much more liability making a drug for humans. My guess is that if you took a dose of the dog anti-venom that was appropriate for your body weight, it would work just fine.

I knew a guy who used an antibiotic for aquarium fish to clear up the clap because he thought his wife would find out if he got it from the pharmacy.

This probably would work if you had someone helping you.
It can take a lot of vials with a bad envenomation and you will likely be in and out of consciousness for a week or so.
The cure can be worse than the venom in the beginning.

[scout/sniper]

The argument for not killing bullsnakes because they kill rattlesnakes doesn't hold much water if any. Just a myth.

So if I've seen it happen it's a myth?   

It's not a myth, they will eat rattlesnakes sometimes.
Just not the normal diet.

[boneaddict]

Its not a myth at all. 




(Wikipedia is not the best source in the world, if that's your source.......)

[KopperBuck]

Ok... a bullsnake will eat a rattlesnake. You got me - what I should have said it's not their main diet as people like to point out. I just find it absurd that think the bullsnake is what is keeping the rattlesnakes in check.

You mean everything on wikipedia isn't true???

[scout/sniper]

Ok... a bullsnake will eat a rattlesnake. You got me - what I should have said it's not their main diet as people like to point out. I just find it absurd that think the bullsnake is what is keeping the rattlesnakes in check.

You mean everything on wikipedia isn't true???

LOL...no the Bull Snake does not keep the rattler in check.