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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #105 on: October 09, 2013, 02:42:00 PM »
I found this out some time ago from a source inside WDFW. People on hunting sites are being paid to down play the impact that wolves will have on hunting, and to direct the topic off of wolves.

I found out something else a long time ago. A lot of people come to various forums for affirmation of their beliefs, not truth.

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #106 on: October 09, 2013, 02:57:24 PM »
I saw 4 wolves in the Methow last week on Thursday, right out of Twisp. The truth cannot be broken by nonbelievers.
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #107 on: October 15, 2013, 07:23:14 PM »
Funny how people who have actually lived amongst wolves, like Alaskans have a different take on them than those who haven't.

The estimates for wolves in Washington is 51 to 102. According to many on here thier impact is greater than 2000 cougars, 25,000 black bears, and tens of thousands of coyotes and bobcats on game in the state judging by thier emotional fueled hate.

Sounds rational to me... :bash:
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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #108 on: October 15, 2013, 07:36:24 PM »
you're numbers are so far off   :bash:





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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #109 on: October 15, 2013, 07:45:27 PM »
Compounding the predator problem with wolves is the issue..............and for no apparent scientific reason.  Purely special interest groups.

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #110 on: October 15, 2013, 07:58:52 PM »
you're numbers are so far off   :bash:

Because they don't reflect YOUR agenda.. :bash:  :IBCOOL:
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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #111 on: October 15, 2013, 08:11:39 PM »
Compounding the predator problem with wolves is the issue..............and for no apparent scientific reason.  Purely special interest groups.

Funny, In Yellowstone Park the riparian habitat is making a comeback due to the fact the elk can't overbrowse and destroy that critical habitat as they are chased of by wolves. That leads to a much stronger food chain and much more diverse prey base which in the end results in a larger carrying capacity for all animals.

But why would anyone care if they are just trying to get thier elk. lol
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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #112 on: October 15, 2013, 08:27:02 PM »
OH Boy!
Bruce Vandervort

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #113 on: October 15, 2013, 08:46:26 PM »
I smell a rat...........
I couldn't care less about what anybody says..............

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #114 on: October 15, 2013, 08:51:39 PM »
That Sword is more important than the Shield!

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #115 on: October 15, 2013, 08:52:16 PM »
I smell a rat...........

ayup

People like that aren't worth the 2 seconds of typing it takes to call them the proper expletive.

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #116 on: October 15, 2013, 09:34:03 PM »
Rat...lol  The BIG difference between me and most on this site is I've lived, hunted, and trapped in Alaska.  I also have hunted and trapped in Washington for 20+ years.

Those oldtimers who have trapped for years in Alaska shake thier heads at the "wolf haters".  If you ask anyone of them in the know they will tell you bears are as hard on ungulate populations as wolves.

Hey what do they know? They couldn't hold a light to the experts on this site...geez!
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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #117 on: October 15, 2013, 09:55:39 PM »
Boy, every time somebody disagrees with you guys, your noses go on the fritz.
A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears. ~ Michel de Montaigne

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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #118 on: October 15, 2013, 10:07:21 PM »
Rat...lol  The BIG difference between me and most on this site is I've lived, hunted, and trapped in Alaska.  I also have hunted and trapped in Washington for 20+ years.

Those oldtimers who have trapped for years in Alaska shake thier heads at the "wolf haters".  If you ask anyone of them in the know they will tell you bears are as hard on ungulate populations as wolves.

Hey what do they know? They couldn't hold a light to the experts on this site...geez!

This isn't AK,  Washington pales in comparison with suitable wolf habitat vs Alaska.  Your "Wolves in Alaska" really has no place in the debate about wolves in the lower 48 states.



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Re: Since Wolves
« Reply #119 on: October 15, 2013, 10:29:31 PM »

This isn't AK,  Washington pales in comparison with suitable wolf habitat vs Alaska.  Your "Wolves in Alaska" really has no place in the debate about wolves in the lower 48 states.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.

Wolves or any other predator will have negligible effects on over all cervid numbers if good habitat and weather conditions exist.

There are three main causes of game die offs and wolves aren't one of them.

1 Severe winters or other weather related events such as drouth.

2 Loss of habitat, such as from forests getting too old, roads and new subdivisions, ever expanding cities, even farming   although farming can also help some species. But in some areas hunting is managed to keep animal populations artificially low to prevent crop damage.

3 Disease, which can run rampant when too any animals are crowded into too small of an area.

In years past, you could have added human hunting and poaching, but with modern game management, that isn't as much of an issue as it once was.

A man who fears suffering is already suffering from what he fears. ~ Michel de Montaigne

 


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