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Offline ucwarden

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The same dave jones out of Whatcom County?   If I was in charge I would have fired him to. The most unprofessional guy I have ever seen in uniform.    :twocents:    I helped unload elk fence for landowners in the nooksack and that guy said the F word about 5 times per sentence.   Im no saint but man that guy was wayyyy outta line.

One in the same.  He is very rough around the edges, but one hell of a good game warden.

First I read Operation Cody and get worked up and now I learn that Dave Jones is fired. He was a highlight of our Hunter Education classes. The kids loved him and he we'll sure miss him. I've seen Dave in two situations and I was impressed  by the way he handled the violators; very professional and not with a confrontational demeanor. I'm not sure I want to be an instructor any longer with the way the WDFW is heading.

It makes sick to watch all of the WA Game Warden history and knowledge keep getting forced out.

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It used to be that our administrators were all game wardens who had promoted in their last couple of years before retirement.  They had tons of experience in the field, and still understood what the job was all about.

But now, we get kids running the show, who never had enough experience to understand the job; what works and what doesn't.
Todd, why do you think this is going on? Do the younger guys just have a bigger ego to feed nowadays? I will say in my experience it's not just WDFW going this way, but rather LE as a whole moving this way. It seems like there are so many young guys who get their feet wet and immediately want their Sergeant stripes and even more. Whereas "back in the day" the only guys who wanted to get out of the field and into supervisory roles were the guys with gray in their hair..

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It used to be that our administrators were all game wardens who had promoted in their last couple of years before retirement.  They had tons of experience in the field, and still understood what the job was all about.

But now, we get kids running the show, who never had enough experience to understand the job; what works and what doesn't.
Todd, why do you think this is going on? Do the younger guys just have a bigger ego to feed nowadays? I will say in my experience it's not just WDFW going this way, but rather LE as a whole moving this way. It seems like there are so many young guys who get their feet wet and immediately want their Sergeant stripes and even more. Whereas "back in the day" the only guys who wanted to get out of the field and into supervisory roles were the guys with gray in their hair..

I have no idea.  "Back in the day" all game wardens loved the job, and lived it 24/7.  Lately we get the young officers, you refer to, who aspire to work behind a desk for the rest of their career as early as they can.  Apparently things have changed in society, when my thinking (of right or wrong) hasn't.

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Upper level management of all types like the young energetic upncomers who flat out run in what ever direction they are told to run and will keep running in that direction regardless of obstacles, until told to change direction.  Its a mind set they look for..........not experience .  The ones who will do what they are told with out question or thought of consequences..........Just do it because you're told to do it.  And then theres the unconditional  loyalty to who ever gave them their brake........because they know they just circumvented the system.

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Upper level management of all types like the young energetic upncomers who flat out run in what ever direction they are told to run and will keep running in that direction regardless of obstacles, until told to change direction.  Its a mind set they look for..........not experience .  The ones who will do what they are told with out question or thought of consequences..........Just do it because you're told to do it.  And then theres the unconditional  loyalty to who ever gave them their brake........because they know they just circumvented the system.

Yep, that pretty well sums it up.

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Thats just great, so we have a bunch of young tackle berrys that like to kiss ass  and be yes men when they dont know what the hell  they are saying yes to, and they have bosses that love it and don't really care about actually having their young tackle berries do their jobs that they should be doing. It doesn't make sense how the WDFW is ran when it should be ran by guys and gals like TODD or JENNIFER. sometimes, well most of the time, old school is the best way to go....
« Last Edit: March 13, 2014, 09:48:35 PM by jackmaster »
my grandpa always said "if it aint broke dont fix it"

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My entire professional life has been dealing with crap like this. Always getting crapped on my the high ups. To bad WDFW works this way but cant say I'm surprised. This was a great book and i have already passed it on and recommended it to many others. Good on you UCWARDEN for staying the course and doing what you could even if it was with your hands tied by bureaucratic BS.
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My entire professional life has been dealing with crap like this. Always getting crapped on my the high ups. To bad WDFW works this way but cant say I'm surprised. This was a great book and i have already passed it on and recommended it to many others. Good on you UCWARDEN for staying the course and doing what you could even if it was with your hands tied by bureaucratic BS.

Thanks!

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Just got my copy today. Ordered from the website and it came in a very timely manner.




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Just got my copy today. Ordered from the website and it came in a very timely manner.

After reading it you will understand my movement to remove the top layers of WDFW

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Well that was an interesting read.




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Great read and very eye opening. Thanks  :tup:

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Great read and very eye opening. Thanks  :tup:

Thanks.  Please do me a favor and get onto Amazon and write up a review.

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Just picked up a copy tonight at the big horn show. It was good chatting with ya Todd and I am looking forward to reading it.

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ucwarden, why didn`t the restaurants that sold the game meat get seized? It sounded like their vehicles did but no the restaurants.

 


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