OPERATION CODY- An undercover investigation into WA's commercial poaching

[bigtex]

I was wondering, do the wild life commissioners hire and fire the director?

Yes the Fish and Wildlife Commission make the hiring decisions for the Director's position

BIGTEX, have you read "OPERATION CODY"? just curious what your take is on the book.

Yes I have read the book. I think what is seen in the book is very common with law enforcement agencies, especially the larger the agency. The days of a new cop getting his badge and gun and told to go do good work is over. It's not so much what the officer wants to do, but rather what the agency (command staff) wants them to do. And in my opinion, what the officer wants  to do is usually more inline with what the public wants them to do.

[trophyhunt]

Bigtex, do you know the commissioners at all?  Do you think if I sent them each a copy they would read it?  I know if I was on the board, and read operation Cody, someone would be in my sights to be removed. 


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[ucwarden]

Bigtex, do you know the commissioners at all?  Do you think if I sent them each a copy they would read it?  I know if I was on the board, and read operation Cody, someone would be in my sights to be removed. 


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I am in the process or working with a reporter to bring some of the "issues" to light.  If that works, we will definitely get the attention of the commissioners or even the governor.  We will see.

[ucwarden]

I was wondering, do the wild life commissioners hire and fire the director?

Yes the Fish and Wildlife Commission make the hiring decisions for the Director's position

BIGTEX, have you read "OPERATION CODY"? just curious what your take is on the book.

Yes I have read the book. I think what is seen in the book is very common with law enforcement agencies, especially the larger the agency. The days of a new cop getting his badge and gun and told to go do good work is over. It's not so much what the officer wants to do, but rather what the agency (command staff) wants them to do. And in my opinion, what the officer wants  to do is usually more inline with what the public wants them to do.

Once again, Bigtex is right on the money!  Most (certainly not all) officers have the right ideas, and if they were allowed to run the show, most of you would be satisfied.  I have never understood the mentality of people who get hired into one of the best jobs on earth; Game Warden, then immediately work to get into an office.  To me, office work (working in the headquarters office) would be the last thing on earth a game warden would desire.  It used to be that our administrators were all game wardens who had promoted in their last couple of years before retirement.  They had tons of experience in the field, and still understood what the job was all about.

But now, we get kids running the show, who never had enough experience to understand the job; what works and what doesn't.

[ucwarden]

I hope you hammer the fish, you Damn sure earned it sir...

Thanks.  First day out we hooked five marlin and boated four.

Awesome! Please post a topic about your fishing trip after you get back, I would love to hear more. 

Will do!

[jackmaster]

well you must really be putn the wood to the fish UC, we are patiently waiting for pics, my cousin is reading your book now and it is affecting him as much as it did me, this may sound a bit corny but that book really got to me, it pisses me off to say the least that there are assnuts out there that are doing this stuff to ARE game animals, and yet fine fellas like yourself and fine women like jennifer are being hand cuffed to the point where they cant do their jobs, seriously irritating as hell  again good luck to you and the wife on your fishn trip 

[ucwarden]

well you must really be putn the wood to the fish UC, we are patiently waiting for pics, my cousin is reading your book now and it is affecting him as much as it did me, this may sound a bit corny but that book really got to me, it pisses me off to say the least that there are assnuts out there that are doing this stuff to ARE game animals, and yet fine fellas like yourself and fine women like jennifer are being hand cuffed to the point where they cant do their jobs, seriously irritating as hell  again good luck to you and the wife on your fishn trip 

Here is one pic; more to come.

[Rainier10]

Looks like good times, enjoy yourself, you deserve it.

[jackmaster]

Thats awesome, hows that haircut feel do you miss your ponytail 

[SCRUBS]

Congrats UC. Looks like fun.

[ucwarden]

Thats awesome, hows that haircut feel do you miss your ponytail 

First thing I did when I retired was shave and cut my hair.  Kinda funny, since a lot of guys grow beards and long hair when they retire from law enforcement, but I hated it.  Like combing my hair with a towel.

[ucwarden]

At least this one will "Name Names" So i can direct my frustration in the correct direction... And since i'n a WA citizen and these guys are realitively close hopefull some impact can be made.

I don't know about the forest service book, but my book won't please you very much.
But you are right; I certainly do name names.

Also; FYI today they fired one of the best game wardens we have in the state (Dave Jones).  For those of you who have read the book, he was the one who handled all of our deer and elk, many times off-duty on his own time.  In my opinion he was fired because he very strongly opposed Cenci, and it was a bs deal.  Hopefully he will win his appeal, and get a bunch of money out of it.

Makes me really glad I retired when I did, but very sad for those good officers who remain behind in WDFW.  I sure hope something drastic changes soon, before they drive out all the good one's.

[hogsniper]

The same dave jones out of Whatcom County?   If I was in charge I would have fired him to. The most unprofessional guy I have ever seen in uniform.        I helped unload elk fence for landowners in the nooksack and that guy said the F word about 5 times per sentence.   Im no saint but man that guy was wayyyy outta line.

[ucwarden]

The same dave jones out of Whatcom County?   If I was in charge I would have fired him to. The most unprofessional guy I have ever seen in uniform.        I helped unload elk fence for landowners in the nooksack and that guy said the F word about 5 times per sentence.   Im no saint but man that guy was wayyyy outta line.

One in the same.  He is very rough around the edges, but one hell of a good game warden.

[Oldguy]

The same dave jones out of Whatcom County?   If I was in charge I would have fired him to. The most unprofessional guy I have ever seen in uniform.        I helped unload elk fence for landowners in the nooksack and that guy said the F word about 5 times per sentence.   Im no saint but man that guy was wayyyy outta line.

One in the same.  He is very rough around the edges, but one hell of a good game warden.

First I read Operation Cody and get worked up and now I learn that Dave Jones is fired. He was a highlight of our Hunter Education classes. The kids loved him and we'll sure miss him. I've seen Dave in two situations and I was impressed  by the way he handled the violators; very professional and not with a confrontational demeanor. I'm not sure I want to be an instructor any longer with the way the WDFW is heading.