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battle of the carbons
« on: September 21, 2013, 05:52:33 PM »
Really wanted a hoyt carbon element, but I see bowtech has a new one too

http://www.bowtecharchery.com/#/productBreakdown?r=products_products&i=49
MSRP is considerable less at $849  :tup:



anyone shooting the bowtech carbon knight?


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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2013, 06:01:24 PM »
Shoot em both. Put on a machine I'm sure they will shoot the same groups. I am a bit partial to bowtech tho. :chuckle: :tup:
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2013, 06:20:26 PM »
I wonder if bowtech will make a carbon experience with all the little bells and whistles - and better cams

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2013, 06:29:33 PM »
I'm sure its in the works.
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2013, 06:53:16 PM »
I wonder if bowtech will make a carbon experience with all the little bells and whistles - and better cams
Rumor has it.  I have shot the carbon experience at Rock Creek it draws and shoots well but that was at 3 yards.  It only comes in black at this time.

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2013, 06:54:18 PM »
BOWTECH!!!   :tup: :tup:

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2013, 04:01:11 AM »
I wouldn't buy a first generation bow. Especially from a company with bowtechs track record. I would wait to buy until any bugs/flaws show up and are fixed. Plus, you know what Bowtech has up their sleeve for 2014! :tup:

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2013, 04:23:22 AM »
I was shooting the other day and started talking to a guy that was sighting in his bowtech carbon after chatting he told me that the first one he had broke right in the center of the riser!!! so he was sighting in the replacement bow!! I will stick to my Hoyt no way would I own the BowWreck after hearing that....
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2013, 04:28:47 AM »
I was shooting the other day and started talking to a guy that was sighting in his bowtech carbon after chatting he told me that the first one he had broke right in the center of the riser!!! so he was sighting in the replacement bow!! I will stick to my Hoyt no way would I own the BowWreck after hearing that....

 :yike: If that happened to me I'd never shoot it again! I'd get the replacement, sell it, and buy a Hoyt! :tup:

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2013, 04:33:25 AM »
I was shooting the other day and started talking to a guy that was sighting in his bowtech carbon after chatting he told me that the first one he had broke right in the center of the riser!!! so he was sighting in the replacement bow!! I will stick to my Hoyt no way would I own the BowWreck after hearing that....

 :yike: If that happened to me I'd never shoot it again! I'd get the replacement, sell it, and buy a Hoyt! :tup:
:yeah: he said it was in his case when it exploded but who actually knows might of been in his case and fell under his tire lol
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2013, 05:33:23 AM »
I was shooting the other day and started talking to a guy that was sighting in his bowtech carbon after chatting he told me that the first one he had broke right in the center of the riser!!! so he was sighting in the replacement bow!! I will stick to my Hoyt no way would I own the BowWreck after hearing that....

 :yike: If that happened to me I'd never shoot it again! I'd get the replacement, sell it, and buy a Hoyt! :tup:
Just don't bump those Hoyt limbs... They'll splinter... :chuckle:
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2013, 06:04:14 AM »
I'll take a few cosmetic splinters that dont affect the integrity of the limb if I don't need to worry about this. Don't forget safety glasses! :chuckle:
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2013, 07:41:52 AM »
 :chuckle: got me there.
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2013, 04:29:34 PM »
Had a BowTech Black Night when they first came out and shot it for 7 years with no problems, sold my Matthews MQ 32 for this one. Had an Admiral for a couple years, no issues. Bought a Destroyer 340 in 2010 and just sold it and had zero issues.
Just bought the Carbon Knight. First down range shots today and this bow shots sweet. Zero hand shock, I did not shoot without a stabilizer though. It shoots very much like the destroyer 340.
I am shooting a 460.4 grain Easton FMJ, 29" draw, 61lb weight and it throws these arrows at 264.7 fps

If you are in the market for a new bow then I think this bow is worth your consideration.   :twocents:

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2013, 04:32:25 PM »
I am a bowtech fan even though I own a ELite Answer now and have  Hoyt Spyder for sale but I have shot the Bowtech Carbon Knight. I am not impressed. Its quality and workmanship is very poor for Bowtech. Feels like a kids bow. Just my 2 cents.

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2013, 04:44:34 PM »
I have read the "feels like a kids bow" on a couple of other forums as well. I do not believe one can compare the feel of this bow to an aluminum riser bow; they do feel very different. The weight or lack of also takes some getting used to. But once you start hanging items on it the weight starts to add up some.  As for finish; the somewhat textured finish is probably due to fact it is injection molded carbon so therefore is not as polished as other bow risers.

This bow is also very quiet when shooting. Good luck in your search for the one that fits you..........

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2013, 09:17:19 PM »
Just wanted to clarify that in my post above I'm not saying that Bowtech makes a bad bow, I've owned two and never had an issue. I was just returning the punch thrown by nubbs. :tup: :chuckle: :boxin:


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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2013, 10:21:32 PM »
It's hard to say no to a hunting set up that a shade over five lbs fully set up with a quiver of arrows

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2013, 10:38:30 PM »
It's hard to say no to a hunting set up that a shade over five lbs fully set up with a quiver of arrows

 :yeah:


I've put a few through the hoyt carbon element and dayum I didn't know a bow could feel so dead on the shot.
kind of weird really. 

I liked some of the mid range bows a lot too, but that carbon hoyt was something else.

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2013, 10:43:44 PM »
I wouldn't buy a first generation bow. Especially from a company with bowtechs track record. I would wait to buy until any bugs/flaws show up and are fixed. Plus, you know what Bowtech has up their sleeve for 2014! :tup:

Amen to that. I have only ever seen first had 3 bows blow up. 1 was a Matthews monster and 2 have been bowtech self destroyers! I have owned every major brand of bows and won't ever get into bowtech again.
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #20 on: September 27, 2013, 10:46:30 PM »
I'm a Bear fanboy.  Anyone else?

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #21 on: September 27, 2013, 10:53:50 PM »
I have been shooting the bear anarchy for the last 2 years. It's a great bow not my personal fave but it shoots good for me.
That being said I have enough bows laying around here that no one can say I am one sided :chuckle:
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #22 on: September 27, 2013, 10:55:08 PM »
not me, I got an old Cabelas branded bow I bought out of a magazine 15 years ago.

I want something lighter and faster, hanging onto that heavy bow is hard on the rotator cuff I destroyed years ago

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #23 on: September 27, 2013, 10:59:33 PM »
My buddy was still shooting a pro line until 2 years ago as his main hunting bow. He killed a lot of critters with it!
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #24 on: September 27, 2013, 11:17:40 PM »
My buddy was still shooting a pro line until 2 years ago as his main hunting bow. He killed a lot of critters with it!
There's something to say for a bow that has spilled a lot of blood. You'd have a hard time prying my 82nd airborne from my hands. Not sure ill ever buy another hunting bow.
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #25 on: September 27, 2013, 11:20:45 PM »
Indeed I still have every bow I have spilled major blood with. I still pick up my x force from time to time just to rip a few arrows down range. I shot over 15 animals with that bow in 3 years.
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #26 on: September 27, 2013, 11:22:48 PM »
I have been shooting the bear anarchy for the last 2 years. It's a great bow not my personal fave but it shoots good for me.
That being said I have enough bows laying around here that no one can say I am one sided :chuckle:

Thanks to RadSav, I'm shooting a Legion.  I can't pull more than 50lbs consistently so a lower poundage bow works great.  Quiet, smooth, I love every bit of it.  It's pass through'd deer at 45lbs of draw.  Good enough for me

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2013, 06:44:10 PM »
Hoyt all the way for me.

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2013, 07:03:43 PM »
I have a Hoyt as my primary bow and a Bowtech as my backup. 

I personlly like a longer axle to axle bow for hunting because of the different positions I am in while shooting at criters...   Seams like the bow companies are going as light as they can and as short axle to axle as possible to reduce the weight. 
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2013, 12:40:30 AM »
I have been shooting the bear anarchy for the last 2 years. It's a great bow not my personal fave but it shoots good for me.
That being said I have enough bows laying around here that no one can say I am one sided :chuckle:

Man are you going to love the new one!  That is one fantastic hybrid cam. Same 35.5"/330 but better feel and another 1/4" in brace.  I've been messing with the yoke systems to see how much it takes to get cam lean.  It takes quite a bit to get them as crooked as the bottom cam on an everyday Hoyt. And they put the string stops on the right direction for 2014 :chuckle:

And if you want to combine fast and smooth the Venue and Empire single cam systems are 330 IBO and daggum smooth as heck.  So nice to shoot I might be going back to a single cam this next year.  And I normally HATE single cam bows!  The new string suppressors are funky looking, but you are really going to like those too if you go with the shorter bow.  Those will be on the new 2014 340 and 350 IBO bows as well.

I am looking forward to playing with a BT Carbon Experience if they get one out by next hunting season.  But these 2014 Bear bows are really applying the heat to those who like spending lots of money for logos.  If Bear changes their grip they might run out of reasons to throw their $1,000 into a logo pile of hype.
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2013, 01:20:07 AM »
I got my hands on some new models and was glad to see the string stops get shifted around. They offered me the upgrade this year but I passed as this bow is doing good for me. Maybe I should have them send me one if you are liking the new one that much.
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2013, 01:42:05 AM »
I got my hands on some new models and was glad to see the string stops get shifted around. They offered me the upgrade this year but I passed as this bow is doing good for me. Maybe I should have them send me one if you are liking the new one that much.

Or I can send you a Motive 7 and you can find out for yourself if you like the cam or not.  I have a loaner that's nearly been around the world already.  So far everyone that has shot it ended up purchasing one!  It's amazing how good they are when peer pressure isn't in play :chuckle:
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2013, 11:38:05 PM »
this is good info
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2013, 11:40:43 PM »
I have been shooting the bear anarchy for the last 2 years. It's a great bow not my personal fave but it shoots good for me.
That being said I have enough bows laying around here that no one can say I am one sided :chuckle:
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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2013, 09:27:56 PM »
HOYT baby!

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Re: battle of the carbons
« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2013, 10:09:31 AM »
I've been shooting the CK since early Oct. and have probably put close to 3500 arrows down range with zero issues. Bow continues to impress with stability, lack of hand shock and quiet. I focus mostly on 60 target and have no problem putting 4 of 6 arrows in a 4" spot with two just out (I blame the shooter for these).

With BT dropping the price of this bow and making it a package deal for about $650.00 it will be a hard package to beat.

 


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