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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2013, 08:42:31 AM »
Scott Rockholm had a pack of wolves jump him one time when he was filming a wolf kill, he said when you stand your ground they run at you trying to get you to run, he also said they are very hard to hit when they are dodging in out out at close range. If he had not been armed he figured he would not be here today. When you don't stand your ground and are not armed you end up like the school teacher in Alaska.

This isn't the first wolf/human attacks in the Methow or the rest of WA for that matter. As we have already seen in the past, when such incidents happen and the public is informed, WDFW down play the attack.

There have been several attacks in Idaho, where the USFWS are famous for hiding the truth from the public.

Wolf/human encounters like this will continue to get worse as wolves run out of prey, and  become more habitual, wolves that have not been hunted in 18 years, have been hauled around in trucks etc. for release.

   WDFW and USFWS will continue to hide the impact wolves are having on livestock, wildlife and people.

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2013, 09:36:13 AM »
Great story, it makes for really great entertainment.  There really is no conspiracy to hide the truth.  Until the investigation is complete, WDFW cannot release anything.  You all know that.  At that point the feds and federal prosecutors have to review the reports given to them by WDFW.  The shooter has to be interviewed numerous times to get the truth.  He will have to consult his attorney numerous times, if he can reach him, just ask the Twisp rancher.  As far as wolves, I thought everyone knew of the Hozemeen pack along Ross lake.  Been there for years.  Outfitters up there have reported them. 

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2013, 09:42:14 AM »
Great story, it makes for really great entertainment.  There really is no conspiracy to hide the truth.  Until the investigation is complete, WDFW cannot release anything.  You all know that.  At that point the feds and federal prosecutors have to review the reports given to them by WDFW.  The shooter has to be interviewed numerous times to get the truth.  He will have to consult his attorney numerous times, if he can reach him, just ask the Twisp rancher.  As far as wolves, I thought everyone knew of the Hozemeen pack along Ross lake.  Been there for years.  Outfitters up there have reported them.

If the hunter was hospitalized, that information would probably already have hit this site. It would be nearly impossible to keep an attack that required hospitalization under wraps once the hospital knew the person checking in had been attacked by a wolf. That's big news, and contrary to conspiracy theories, the media loves a good, real animal attack - great for ratings.

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2013, 09:44:10 AM »
Are you guys referencing the Twisp rancher that was caught when trying to ship the cape to Canada?

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2013, 10:54:27 AM »
Who knows what really happened up there.  We don't know if the wolf ever "attacked him" we don't know where the guy shot the wolf, we don't know squat about it.  My guess (just my guess) is that the wolf got too close and the guy killed it and is trying to make a claim that he felt like he was in danger.  Hopefully it all gets sorted out soon.

I don't think this case has anything in common with the Twisp rancher that trapped and killed the wolves. 

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #50 on: September 26, 2013, 11:06:43 AM »
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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #51 on: September 26, 2013, 11:19:31 AM »
 :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:  I hope you're kidding!

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #52 on: September 26, 2013, 11:28:26 AM »
I shouldn't have erased my post I was going to put just prior to that movie trailer.   It would have made perfect sense.

Many people are afraid of their own shadow.  As much as I hate wolves, and actually have been hunted and stalked by them, just because you see the damn thing it doesn't mean he is going to eat you.  :chuckle:  I wonder if you guys realize how many cats you walk by in the woods if you'd even get out of the truck.

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #53 on: September 26, 2013, 11:34:06 AM »
I agree on the cats and yes just sensationalism about the wolf clip

I call predators and have called in many cats, connected on one cougar, harder than you think to get the drop on them in timber.
very sneaky.


This website does make me concerned for the wildlife and livestock though.

http://www.saveelk.com/
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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #54 on: September 26, 2013, 11:38:08 AM »
THey are more efficient killers than wolves by far.   In fact I know of multiple instances where the wolves adapt to letting the cat make a kill then the wolves run the cats off, and they have to go kill again.   Idabooner watched this for two winters from his front porch.   Thankfully cats seem to show more fear than wolves do.   That's the part that bothers me about wolves.

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #55 on: September 26, 2013, 02:26:34 PM »
In all serious now, some folks are down right afraid of wolves, bear and cougar.  And they know very little about them, which causes them fear.  They probably have hunted all their lives for deer, birds etc.  But its now the big bad wolf, and seeing one caused panic.  On another note, we do have the Hozomeen pack which wanders around in the Pasayten, how many, anyones guess.

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #56 on: September 26, 2013, 02:29:38 PM »
When did it get the designation Hozomeen pack?

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2013, 02:35:28 PM »
We were told an area alongside Ross Lake was off limits for hiking in the mid-90's because of potential denning wolves.

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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2013, 02:37:57 PM »
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Re: Wolf Attack at Harts Pass
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2013, 02:40:58 PM »
I had some fun with a fellow we ran into this year who had just arrowed his first elk. He mentioned something about wanting to go back to his killsite to look for part of his arrow but chose not to "because he didn't have his sidearm with him."
Asked this big, kind of tough looking guy why he'd need to have a sidearm to do such a simple task. Mentioned I've gone into many kill sites over the years, often in the dark and by my lonesome. Never carried a sidearm.
His reply: cougars, bears & now wolves.
I had to laugh!
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