Thank you archery228 and Bullcanyon.. yes I have shot the Elite and any other bow youn can name, remember shooting a bow is one of the things I do for a living.... what do you do? so dont question my taste, I do prefer hoyt but matthews and other companys make a good bow as well, my point was with fixed blades, they dont group well past about 280ft a second, maybe they group good enough for you past that speed but I want 3 in groups at any distance with my broadheads and in ALL the tests I have done with a hootershooter 280 fps was the max they grouped tight enough, also a fast bow like 300-360fps requires a perfect shooter to shoot well, those speeds are so much harder to control and magnify any flaw you have in form etc......... so again..... anything that shoots over 280 really to me is worthless.......... my trykon xl at 60lbs shoots 270fps and my new alphamax will be around 280 at 70lbs.... perfect for broadheads........thats one other thing I love about hoyt, they have not got into the "speed" market and sacarficed accuracy for speed.. the katera shoots 321 obo...... not super fast these days.......