Wild Olympics

[coastal ghost hunter]

Over here in Jefferson county there is an act that the Liberals are pushing and it is backed by Patty Murray. This bill would potentially effect hunting land, Logging land, Christmas tree hunting, and firewood cutting. These people are telling the communities around here that the bill will not effect anything but just enforce the laws already at hand for logging and recreational firewood cutting. I worry that this bill will pass and us hunters and others who use the freedoms in the National Forest, will loose around 150,000 acres of land that will be swollowed up by National Park. Bad stuff. Give me your input or any facts I can use for the fight over here. Thanks

[X-Force]

I'll have to look into this a more. haven't heard anything about it. it looks like a big land grab like the ncnp expansion.

[coastal ghost hunter]

It just stresses me out because I hunt there and I don't need a discover pass and I never see people there.

[asl20bball]

It was my understanding that this new wildlife area is more of a road closure (like that of a wilderness designation) as oppossed to an expansion of the national park which would close down the new area for hunting. I can't say what the effect w/b regarding firewood cutting etc.  Either way I'm against it.

[bowbuild]

Then it wouldn't be all that far from them to try to extend the "park" next.

[snowpack]

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2014/01/17/protect-olympics-wild-places-murray-kilmer/
Sen Murry introduced a bill for Wild Olympics today.

[blackdog]

I am opposed. !20,000 +acres of wilderness on Forest Service ground, nearly every river on the peninsula becomes wild and scenic. It does not restore access to the Dosewallops, or to the "bridge to nowhere" on Sam's River. It rewards the bad behavior of the Washington DC and Wall Street special interests that now own our economy. Makes antigunners Dicks and Murray heroes with the antihunters. Yea I oppose this worthless Congressional piece of crap.

[blackdog]

http://exotichikes.com/the-end-of-the-olympic-national-parks-enchanted-valley-chalet/ This what wilderness gets us, paralyzed agencies and endless process.

[Elkaholic daWg]

I am opposed. !20,000 +acres of wilderness on Forest Service ground, nearly every river on the peninsula becomes wild and scenic. It does not restore access to the Dosewallops, or to the "bridge to nowhere" on Sam's River. It rewards the bad behavior of the Washington DC and Wall Street special interests that now own our economy. Makes antigunners Dicks and Murray heroes with the antihunters. Yea I oppose this worthless Congressional piece of crap.

As I did with the wild sky land grab. Those who sit at desks in Seattle , DC, or anywhere else just love to "protect" things and restrict access to others as  any good  nanny state would. They seem to NEVER get "enough".  This country would be better off if our POS elected morons would work on the real issues instead of imagining  new ones to throw  our (not their) money at.

 He added amendments to keep existing roads in place, enhance fire-fighting capability and assure protection for private landowners.
 A judge CAN take that out with the stroke of a pen.

 AND no editorializing in this fair and balanced reporting......
"Don’t hold your breath.  The bill goes to the House Natural Resources Committee, chaired by Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash.

Hastings has almost never seen any piece of federal land that he doesn’t want to log, or mine, or drill, or turn over to state or private ownership."


Americans are systematically advocating, legislating, and voting away each others rights. Support all user groups and quit losing opportunity.

[bigtex]

Hastings has almost never seen any piece of federal land that he doesn’t want to log, or mine, or drill, or turn over to state or private ownership."

Actually Hastings is the prime sponsor of a bill that would create the Manhattan Project National Historical Park in WA and other states under the jurisdiction of the National Park Service. So he is not totally anti fed land management.

[snowpack]

 He added amendments to keep existing roads in place, enhance fire-fighting capability and assure protection for private landowners.
 A judge CAN take that out with the stroke of a pen.

I think the road thing is a trap.  They say the roads will stay for the creation.  But wilderness boundaries and wild scenic boundaries will run up to the road buffer zones.  So as soon as part of the road washes out it will be near impossible to repair/redirect even a small portion due to wilderness/WS rules, FS road budgets and all kinds of lawsuits the greenies will file.  So the USFS will just have to place boulders near the closest wide spot and however much road beyond is now shutdown.  I wouldn't put it past the greenies to stuff culverts with hay or duff to speed it up.

[Elkaholic daWg]

You know them well  

Hastings has almost never seen any piece of federal land that he doesn’t want to log, or mine, or drill, or turn over to state or private ownership."

Actually Hastings is the prime sponsor of a bill that would create the Manhattan Project National Historical Park in WA and other states under the jurisdiction of the National Park Service. So he is not totally anti fed land management.

That was a DIRECT quote of the PI story bigtex

[bigtex]

You know them well  

Hastings has almost never seen any piece of federal land that he doesn’t want to log, or mine, or drill, or turn over to state or private ownership."

Actually Hastings is the prime sponsor of a bill that would create the Manhattan Project National Historical Park in WA and other states under the jurisdiction of the National Park Service. So he is not totally anti fed land management.

That was a DIRECT quote of the PI story bigtex

I know I saw that after I posted. 

Hastings has introduced several bills to create the new NHP. He even added an amendment to the 2014 2014 National Defense Authorization Act to create the new NHP/

Due to failure of support from the Senate, the expected final 2014 National Defense Authorization Act does not include two House-passed amendments to the 2014 National Defense Authorization Act authored by Congressman Doc Hastings to establish the Manhattan Project National Park. A statement from Congressman Doc Hastings, Chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, follows:

“I’m disappointed, but not deterred. To all the advocates for this Park: you’ve given great energy, enthusiasm and expertise to this effort to date, and I know that will continue until our goal is accomplished, which I am confident it will ultimately be."

http://hastings.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=364192

[Knocker of rocks]

 AND no editorializing in this fair and balanced reporting......
"Don’t hold your breath.  The bill goes to the House Natural Resources Committee, chaired by Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash.

Hastings has almost never seen any piece of federal land that he doesn’t want to log, or mine, or drill, or turn over to state or private ownership."

Why Joel Connolly didn't resist his urge to editorialize and stick to a news piece is beyond me.  Very unprofessional in my view

[blackdog]

I'm not defending Joel but everything he writes is an "Editorial", his job title is "Editorialist". He does not like our hunting heritage and he is not a "reporter"! Please realize that he will never refrain from editorializing in his editorials.