Archery blacktail hunters act now!!!

[deaddog]

I say give it to them, as a traditional archery , recurves or longbow , cedar arrows, steel heads anything other than that hunts modern season. sound good? this will make the *censored* fly!

[huntnphool]

no static at all you joker

FM, no static at all Different song but still love it.

[M_ray]

Now were all on the same page!!! whoduthunk it would only take a little bit of Steely Dan! 

[Tony 270WSM]

Actually you are complaining about the season. And just so I hae it right, you think bowhunters should be entitled to the elk and deer rut and rifle hunters get the leftovers?

Personally I think nobody should get the first two weeks of November. The deer need time to do what they do and be left unpressured so they can breed without dodging hunters. To wish otherwise is just simple greed on your part. Enjoy what you have and stop looking for more.

And I'm not just a rifle hunter

[Antlershed]

There are permits that let you hunt the first week of November, and there is a reason it is by permit only... We don't have the deer numbers that most other states have to support hunting by everyone during that time. 

[M_ray]

  I tried to tell you Kelso! 

I love that one  I got to use it twice today!!!!

[BlackTail]

One thing I haven't heard you address is "greed".  I mean I don't want to start a war between different methods of hunting, but I also don't see how this can come off as anthing less than greed.  You said blacktails so I'll stick with the west side.  Rifle hunters get a combined (deer and elk) 34 days to hunt, muzzleloaders get 61-68 days and archers get 91-114 days depending on what GMU you hunt the late seasons in.  Archers and muzzleloaders already get to hunt the rut for elk.  Archers also have the option to buy a muzzleloader or rifle tag, if they like that season better, and hunt it with their archery equipment.  Rifle hunters have no such option.  Now, you want rifle hunters to combine their deer and elk season, shortening their days in the field and increasing the number of hunters at the same time, to get out of the way so you can hunt deer during the rut too?  Tell me how that's not being greedy and how you're thinking about all different hunting methods here.  Did I miss anything??

[bigv518]

Hunting that first week of september with a bow is better than the rut IMO. Bucks everywhere trying to pack on the pounds in the clearcuts and are pretty easy to see that time of year, I wouldnt mind hunting with a rifle that first week. I gaurantee a big blacktail down  I vote keep ot how it is. Oh by the way, my wife buys a rifle tag and hunts with her bow during the rut.

Hey lucky: Thx 4 info. never hunted that early b4. From out of state. I'm assuming bucks are still in velvet 1st week of September? Shorts weather lol. Does any time of day seem better in early to find bt's foraging? Prob dusk huh! Bet the wife gets deer pushed to her alot during modern. GL to ya!

[Ray]

sanjuankelso you are persistent. I admire that. 

[huntnphool]

sanjuankelso you are persistent.

You got that right!!!

[Broken Arrow]

i like the season as it is....use the system to help you......no support here.

[BlackTail]

sanjuankelso,  you said to combine the moderen deer and elk season (roughly 20 days on a good year) and then lengthen the late season to 7-10 days which would give rifles hunter 27-30 days.  That would in essence shorten modern firearm season.  I mean come on.  I want to rifle hunt elk in the rut.  I want an over the counter moose, sheep and goat tag.  I want to hunt Mulies in November.  But it isn't just about what I want.  You seem like a pretty level headed person, but I can't understand how you don't hear the self-serving tone of your posts??

[elkaholic_74]

Good luck getting anything changed! as long as it doesnt mess with my modern firearm season i wish you well!

[M_ray]

Kelso,
I will say again you can hunt the modern season with a bow and get your blacktails in the rut! But you are not going to get both Elk and Deer for archery in the rut and I for one would never in a million years give up the archery Elk rut for the Blacktail rut ... so no support from me on this one ... good luck!

[dreamingbig]

One thing I haven't heard you address is "greed".  I mean I don't want to start a war between different methods of hunting, but I also don't see how this can come off as anthing less than greed.  You said blacktails so I'll stick with the west side.  Rifle hunters get a combined (deer and elk) 34 days to hunt, muzzleloaders get 61-68 days and archers get 91-114 days depending on what GMU you hunt the late seasons in.  Archers and muzzleloaders already get to hunt the rut for elk.  Archers also have the option to buy a muzzleloader or rifle tag, if they like that season better, and hunt it with their archery equipment.  Rifle hunters have no such option.  Now, you want rifle hunters to combine their deer and elk season, shortening their days in the field and increasing the number of hunters at the same time, to get out of the way so you can hunt deer during the rut too?  Tell me how that's not being greedy and how you're thinking about all different hunting methods here.  Did I miss anything??

I haven't checked your numbers so I will take it that you are mostly right (minus accounting for 14 days for modern rifle bull permit hunters) but you failed to take into account that some bowhunters would be willing to reduce the total number of days in the field (last 10 days of Dec and first 10 days of Sep for example for deer) in exchange for 7-10 good days at beginning of November.

Also, modern firearm guys can buy an archery permit and hunt with a bow, nothing is stopping them.  Except for perhaps the increased difficulty...