I-90 Car top Buck

[quadrafire]

Looks like it's nothing new
Granted the rigs weren't quite a big back then

[pianoman9701]

and my Washington moose....
Was I supposed to hide them???

Looks good to me. What, no room in the glove box? 

[shoot-em-dead]

Bone how could you. that is so unethical. You should have put those in the passenger seat so nobody could be offended.
 
 I personally don't put as much thought into it as many of you have. I put mine in the truck bed and go. If I worried about offending people I would never be able to leave home. I've had  many people complain because the snow guard is broken on my truck. I have even had people tell me I need to wash my truck. I don't give a rip what others do so long as nobody is in physical danger.

[bradslam]

Quote by Bearpaw:  "Would you consider the chicken to have more rights than the houseplant? I see the house plant as an equal to a chicken, it has just as much right to life as the chicken in my mind."

That is absolutely ridiculous.  So apparently, torturing a chicken would be okay.  If, for instance, your kid went around cutting off the legs of chickens, it wouldn't set off some alarm bells?  That type of behavior could land someone in jail, as it should. I'm sorry, but a chicken is a living animal with a brain and is not the same as a plant.  That is almost as ludicrous, on the other extreme, as Ingrid Newkirk's quote about "a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy."

 

[pianoman9701]

Bearpaw, plants and animals are not the same....   

Still think that hanging a sign with your animal would go a long way to "educate" folks.

                       See this Deer/Elk?
                    It Will Feed My Family
                     Organic and Healthy
                   Small Carbon Footprint

That would be a good sign.

[bradslam]

As some others have stated, this is about being respectful...to the animal and to others who don't share your views. 

When I see a fellow hunter strap an animal's head to the front of their car and parade around, I merely see someone who needs their ego stroked.  I have never liked it and think it portrays hunters in a bad light.  I have even seen guys with doe heads tied to the front of their vehicle, complete with tongues hanging out.  Tell me how that will improve our image.

When some have commented on public opinion, others on here have had the attitude of, "Screw it, we'll never change their mind anyway!"  Yes, that may be true of those at the extreme end of the spectrum, but the most important group is the huge majority in the middle.  They will be the ones who decide our future.  Quit doing things that will turn them against us.

[Bob33]

Here is a study on the public's perception of hunting.

In the past year I've read several threads on here about attempts to restrict hunting: on Whidbey Island, South Sound, and other areas. If you believe that turning undecideds against hunting won't impact our hunting future, you're not paying attention.

http://www.responsivemanagement.com/download/reports/NAMWC_Public_Opinion_Hunting.pdf

[scottr]

When non-hunters see a buck/bull strapped to a car there is a good chance a tape starts playing in their head of the stereotypical redneck slob hunter (or maybe the millionaire trophy hunter). They see horns, spoiling meat (it's not refrigerated like in the store after all), and blood lust.

They don't see reverence for the animal and food that will feed a whole family for the winter.  They don't see the time put into harvesting the animal, the money put into conservation, habitat protection, or local economies. They don't see the lasting friendships, family connections, and new friendships formed over hunting.

I like the idea of Loki's sign. If your animal has to be transported in the open something like this could go a long way to hitting pause on the stereotype replay and maybe even get them look positively on the subject.

When it comes to hunting, shooting, and even fly fishing I view myself as an ambassador to the sport. I don't hide the fact that I participate in these sports and when I encounter a non-sportsman and I want to leave them with a more favorable opinion of my chosen sport(s) than before I met them so the next time they see a truck with horns in the back they think of me and not some ugly stereotype.   

[bradslam]

When non-hunters see a buck/bull strapped to a car there is a good chance a tape starts playing in their head of the stereotypical redneck slob hunter (or maybe the millionaire trophy hunter). They see horns, spoiling meat (it's not refrigerated like in the store after all), and blood lust.

They don't see reverence for the animal and food that will feed a whole family for the winter.  They don't see the time put into harvesting the animal, the money put into conservation, habitat protection, or local economies. They don't see the lasting friendships, family connections, and new friendships formed over hunting.

I like the idea of Loki's sign. If your animal has to be transported in the open something like this could go a long way to hitting pause on the stereotype replay and maybe even get them look positively on the subject.

When it comes to hunting, shooting, and even fly fishing I view myself as an ambassador to the sport. I don't hide the fact that I participate in these sports and when I encounter a non-sportsman I want to leave them with a more favorable opinion of my chosen sport(s) than before I met them so the next time they see a truck with horns in the back they think of me and not some ugly stereotype.   

Amen.  I work with a vegetarian who is very far left on the subjects of guns and hunting.  He has told me that I legitimize hunting and wishes there were more hunters out there like me.  I tell him there are plenty of hunters like me, but unfortunately, there are plenty of others that conduct themselves in a manner that ruins our image.   

[pianoman9701]

  x2

The whole car display thing is akin to how we speak about hunting with people who are non-hunters. When we speak in an abrasive, confrontational manner, their fears and concerns about hunting are only confirmed and they get their "back up". It might make us feel better about ourselves but it does nothing for our sport in the eyes of the vast majority. When we speak with someone about hunting, taking into account their possible sensitivities or even misconceptions about our sport, and do so in an approachable and non-confrontational manner, they're more apt to listen and try to understand where we're coming from.

My niece is a vegan. Vegans don't usually understand any animal killing for any reason. They're the Hezbollah of vegetarians. When I told her that I'm going to eat meat like 97% of the rest of the population she acknowledged that. When I told her that the animals I kill are free range their whole lives and never see the inside of a cage, she understood that. When I told her that the way I kill animals is much nicer than how most of the rest of nature does it - starvation, slow death by disease, being eaten by the frikkin' wolves while they're still alive - she acknowledged there are worse ways for animals to die for human consumption. Although I haven't convinced her to go on an elk hunt with me, she does acknowledge that if someone's going to eat meat, this is far better than factory farms and antibiotics. It's necessary diplomacy for us to keep our passion alive.

[tbrady]

I guess the small carbo footprint would be for the Subaru drivers, seriously though, less carbon produced per pound elk vs cow, probably chicken as well.

Dang, is it against the law in WA state to own a Subaru AND be a hunter?  Myself and 2 other guys I hunt with own Subaru's (and love them).  We also participate in Pridefest every year, fly drones to spy on bad hunters and all voted for Obama. 

I guess anyone that drives a pickup with an elk or deer sticker on the back window must be a slob hunter too huh?

[npaull]

The whole car display thing is akin to how we speak about hunting with people who are non-hunters. When we speak in an abrasive, confrontational manner, their fears and concerns about hunting are only confirmed and they get their "back up". It might make us feel better about ourselves but it does nothing for our sport in the eyes of the vast majority. When we speak with someone about hunting, taking into account their possible sensitivities or even misconceptions about our sport, and do so in an approachable and non-confrontational manner, they're more apt to listen and try to understand where we're coming from.

My niece is a vegan. Vegans don't usually understand any animal killing for any reason. They're the Hezbollah of vegetarians. When I told her that I'm going to eat meat like 97% of the rest of the population she acknowledged that. When I told her that the animals I kill are free range their whole lives and never see the inside of a cage, she understood that. When I told her that the way I kill animals is much nicer than how most of the rest of nature does it - starvation, slow death by disease, being eaten by the frikkin' wolves while they're still alive - she acknowledged there are worse ways for animals to die for human consumption. Although I haven't convinced her to go on an elk hunt with me, she does acknowledge that if someone's going to eat meat, this is far better than factory farms and antibiotics. It's necessary diplomacy for us to keep our passion alive.

I agree with this approach. It's a simple question of strategy. We can be boorish and confirm all the stereotypes about hunters, or we can play the game smartly and win over the non-hunting majority. Ethical, responsible hunting - done with an eye towards conservation, long-term sustainable resource use, habitat protection, clean/ethical meat, and respect for the animal - has enough intrinsic good about it to win on the political stage. Slob hunting - beer in hand, littering, horns-only attitude - will and should crash and burn.

[lokidog]

I guess the small carbo footprint would be for the Subaru drivers, seriously though, less carbon produced per pound elk vs cow, probably chicken as well.

Dang, is it against the law in WA state to own a Subaru AND be a hunter?  Myself and 2 other guys I hunt with own Subaru's (and love them). 

Nope, just thinking of a vehicle with less carbon footprint than an F5000.     I have hunted on the eastside with our Subaru Legacy, and slept in the back, as it gets way better mileage than my Dodge.

[Buckmark]

I guess the small carbo footprint would be for the Subaru drivers, seriously though, less carbon produced per pound elk vs cow, probably chicken as well.

Dang, is it against the law in WA state to own a Subaru AND be a hunter?  Myself and 2 other guys I hunt with own Subaru's (and love them).  We also participate in Pridefest every year, fly drones to spy on bad hunters and all voted for Obama. 

I guess anyone that drives a pickup with an elk or deer sticker on the back window must be a slob hunter too huh?

Nope, its all good...heck my main hunting vehicle is about as close to a subaru forrester as you can get. its hauled 2 deer this year no problem, and did not even stink up one bit, heck it hauled 3 250+lb guys and a deer no problem....

[h20hunter]

I think you would have had more of a stink issue with your passengers....not the deer.