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Quote from: The100Road on October 23, 2013, 11:44:40 AMQuote from: full choke on October 23, 2013, 08:44:17 AMIf your main interest is "Grouse and Pheasants" why are you looking at 3 1/2" guns? If I were you, I would definetly look at an 870, but I would go nowhere near the Supermag. For $500 I would look at getting a used Wingmaster 870 in 12g 3" with at least a modified barrel if not one that will accept removable chokes. Excellent guns, will out last you.so i can have the option if i want. why dont you like the supermag?I personally know seven people who have the 870 supermags, and they all have issues. They are just not the same action design as an 870, which IMO is as flawless an action as you can get. Having the 3 1/2 option is valid, but I personally would take a wingmaster or even an express, and only 3" shells, over the supermag and the bigger shells any day of the week. If you absolutely had to have 3 1/2- go with the Nova. Way more dependable. Though they are kind of rattlely and loose feeling...
Quote from: full choke on October 23, 2013, 08:44:17 AMIf your main interest is "Grouse and Pheasants" why are you looking at 3 1/2" guns? If I were you, I would definetly look at an 870, but I would go nowhere near the Supermag. For $500 I would look at getting a used Wingmaster 870 in 12g 3" with at least a modified barrel if not one that will accept removable chokes. Excellent guns, will out last you.so i can have the option if i want. why dont you like the supermag?
If your main interest is "Grouse and Pheasants" why are you looking at 3 1/2" guns? If I were you, I would definetly look at an 870, but I would go nowhere near the Supermag. For $500 I would look at getting a used Wingmaster 870 in 12g 3" with at least a modified barrel if not one that will accept removable chokes. Excellent guns, will out last you.
...... any experiance with the browning BPS?
Quote from: The100Road on October 23, 2013, 12:03:41 PM...... any experiance with the browning BPS?I do.The BPS is Browning’s version of the Ithaca M37, e.g. bottom load, bottom eject. The BPS is a bit heavier and more robust than the M37, higher quality fit & finish, both are fine pumps, IMHO both are superior to the Nova and the 870. Drawbacks to the BPS are muzzle rise/jump, when fired the muzzle tends to rise, somewhat shooter dependant, YMMV. Also, if dirty or when short stroked on the pump, they can drop a live shell from the magazine along with the spent hull. When this happens the shooter rarely notices since it dropped out the bottom, the result is an empty chamber and a missed follow-up shot. my
Quote from: CP on October 23, 2013, 01:00:47 PMQuote from: The100Road on October 23, 2013, 12:03:41 PM...... any experiance with the browning BPS?I do.The BPS is Browning’s version of the Ithaca M37, e.g. bottom load, bottom eject. The BPS is a bit heavier and more robust than the M37, higher quality fit & finish, both are fine pumps, IMHO both are superior to the Nova and the 870. Drawbacks to the BPS are muzzle rise/jump, when fired the muzzle tends to rise, somewhat shooter dependant, YMMV. Also, if dirty or when short stroked on the pump, they can drop a live shell from the magazine along with the spent hull. When this happens the shooter rarely notices since it dropped out the bottom, the result is an empty chamber and a missed follow-up shot. my The nova..... yeah i will agree I HATE Nova's I bought one for my wife and I hate it. She wanted it so she got it. I disagree about the 870 though the Remington 870 Express is one of the most reliable and well built shotguns ever made. It is ALWAYS in the top of any reviews and a great gun. The problem you discried about the shell falling out is enough to prove that point. A gun needs to do one thing and that is go bang when the time is right. Otherwise it's just a fancy looking stick.
Have you considered a 20 gauge?
In the market for a new 12g shotgun under $500. Mostly just grouse & pheasent kind of thing. Leaning towards the Remmington 870 express super magnum. What do you guys think?
