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I inherited a 1954 Beretta Pietro Beretta Gardone V.T. 12 gauge side-by-side. 32 inch barrel extra full. I can cover the barrel with a dime. Emailed Beretta an asked them if I can shot steel shot with this shotgun an they said no. My question is what makes it so that I can or can not shot steel shot.
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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I think the steel in the barrel is too soft? The steel shot is too hard and would therefor deform the barrel. Someone else who knows more will chime in on the technicalities, I am sure.
My question- and I am assuming here that you would be shooting at waterfowl- is why would you want to take such a pretty gun into the marsh?
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October 25, 2013, 07:49:18 PM »
Steel shot doesn't compress like lead shot. You might get away with it for a couple of shots, but then you would begin to notice a bulge in the barrels just ahead of the chokes. The rule of thumb is that a Modified Choke will give you a Full Choke pattern with steel shot. I would not risk damaging such a nice old gun by shooting steel shot in it. Buy a modern steel cheapie with interchangeable choke tubes for hunting with steel shot...
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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October 25, 2013, 08:52:26 PM »
it could be anything from the barrel steel not being hard enough to the barrel diameter just being a little too small a constriction to handle hard steel shot.
Another thing to keep in mind is that ALL modern steel shot loads create a great deal more pressure than guns of that era were proofed to handle.
So if you can find a Low pressure steel shot load I still wouldn't try it in that gun unless I had the chokes reamed out to Improved cylinder and even then I wouldn't try it in a shot size larger than #4... and it would still be total crap shoot that could go from nothing, to bulging the barrels and ruining the gun, to ruining your face.
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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no choke tube barrel size it what it is, super tight. Yes if I could I was going to go WaterFowl if I could. Dad had it in back of closet for ever gun has not been fired since 1955. Never gone Waterfowl hunting will be taking my boy out first weekend on Nov. Only have one other shotgun Mossberg 500. Just was looking forward to shooting the Beretta, which I have never fired. Just like a lot of people funds are tight, but it looks like a need to scrape a few pennies together an look for a used gun for my boy.
Looks like the Beretta won't be fired anytime soon.
Thanks all for your input
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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If you need a gun that shoots steel, I'll gladly trade you one for that puppy
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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October 25, 2013, 10:51:08 PM »
Sorry guys Beretta is not for sale or trade. My dad gave that gun an it means a lot to me. Even if I never get to shoot it, it will remain in the family.
Thanks for asking
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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October 26, 2013, 10:24:36 AM »
Not a good choice for a waterfowl gun with that extra tight choke even if it would digest steel shot. A duck over decoys would be hamburger by the time it hit the water. Get a decent pump shotgun and enjoy the flexibility of screw in chokes. That is a neat keepsake to hand down to the generations to come in your family.
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What a precious thing to inherit
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Don't forget--that gun is over 50 years old. Cherish it, and buy your son a beater. It would probably handle Bismuth Shot, but I still wouldn't risk it. Very few guns are that pretty any more...
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This is what you need for it:
http://www.niceshotinc.com/
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Thanks for your input guys.
Well I end up finding a 870 20 gauge for my son at a pawn shop near me. Needs a good cleaning other than that looks fine.
Beretta is going back in safe an one day will go to my son
Looking forward to my first waterfowl hunt this weekend, hopefully I can post some pics of are outing
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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Quote from: CP on October 28, 2013, 08:30:30 AM
This is what you need for it:
http://www.niceshotinc.com/
or tungsten matrix. that would be the duck gun to end all duck guns with either load.
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Don't do it.
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Re: Steel Shot vs old Barrell
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they make steel shot specifically for vintage guns. bought some at white elephant the other day. may be worth a shot.
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