CURRENTLY WDFW FEDERAL AGENTS SHOOTING 15 bulls in Skagit River Unit!!!!

[huntnphool]

Are bulls the only problem in this area?

[elk247]

I would like to see problem elk relocated across the river into the hills of the sauk unit.

The OP did say the shooting was on the S Skagit highway

Do you just enjoy trying to discredit everyone? Go back and read my post about the problem elk on hiway 20 and the watchable wildlife area. The op was talking about S. Skagit,  i was not. I have many co-workers that have these elk in there yards daily. I have second hand info from what i consider to be a reliable source, but sharing it here will be a waste of my time obviously.

[snowpack]

Are bulls the only problem in this area?

I would imagine if it is anything like the herd that causes problems on the Olympic peninsula, that bulls aren't the only problem but they cause way more damage per animal than the cows.  The herd of cows will feed on crops and trample some stuff, but usually have their routes long established and don't do a whole lot more unless pushed.  The bulls like to rake out big wallows in fields and tear up fences and go out in all directions tearing stuff up.  For the herd on the peninsula when they were left alone, the only real damage from the cows/calves was eating a percentage of the crops.  Then all the wildlife watcher types have shown up trying to take photos and they keep trying to get closer and it causes the herd to run--leaving big trampled areas, some fence damage and chased elk out into the highway.

[turkeyfeather]

I would like to see problem elk relocated across the river into the hills of the sauk unit.

The OP did say the shooting was on the S Skagit highway

Do you just enjoy trying to discredit everyone? Go back and read my post about the problem elk on hiway 20 and the watchable wildlife area. The op was talking about S. Skagit,  i was not. I have many co-workers that have these elk in there yards daily. I have second hand info from what i consider to be a reliable source, but sharing it here will be a waste of my time obviously.

He likes to pretend he's the smartest man in the room.   

[huntnphool]

Are bulls the only problem in this area?

I would imagine if it is anything like the herd that causes problems on the Olympic peninsula, that bulls aren't the only problem but they cause way more damage per animal than the cows.  The herd of cows will feed on crops and trample some stuff, but usually have their routes long established and don't do a whole lot more unless pushed.  The bulls like to rake out big wallows in fields and tear up fences and go out in all directions tearing stuff up.  For the herd on the peninsula when they were left alone, the only real damage from the cows/calves was eating a percentage of the crops.  Then all the wildlife watcher types have shown up trying to take photos and they keep trying to get closer and it causes the herd to run--leaving big trampled areas, some fence damage and chased elk out into the highway.

This is why the bulls are being targeted?

[Knocker of rocks]

I would like to see problem elk relocated across the river into the hills of the sauk unit.

The OP did say the shooting was on the S Skagit highway

Do you just enjoy trying to discredit everyone? Go back and read my post about the problem elk on hiway 20 and the watchable wildlife area. The op was talking about S. Skagit,  i was not. I have many co-workers that have these elk in there yards daily. I have second hand info from what i consider to be a reliable source, but sharing it here will be a waste of my time obviously.

What I was trying to point out, is that the problem is on the south side of the river, right where you want to relocate the north side animals to.  One doesn't have to be the smartest man in the room to wonder if that would not exacerbate the problem.

Sorry I got you  butt hurt

[pianoman9701]

Why would anyone doubt the op? I belive him. This is exactily why people aee upset with the dfw. Over 50 elk have been hit by rigs this year from those herds. There is a problem. They should have handled it through a general season late hunt. Too many of us buy tags to see animals go to the soup kitchen.

Why would anyone doubt anything that appears on the internet as fact?  No one's calling the OP a liar or anything else. Confirmation of something like this is always good before you go around asking for heads on spikes.

[jdw12885]

Why would anyone doubt the op? I belive him. This is exactily why people aee upset with the dfw. Over 50 elk have been hit by rigs this year from those herds. There is a problem. They should have handled it through a general season late hunt. Too many of us buy tags to see animals go to the soup kitchen.

Maybe because he has 21 posts, and started this thread about secret Federal agents shooting elk in the dark.  His information is second hand, and to those who seek more proof he answers "go up there and look". 

To you, Mr Elk247, I answer, why would you believe the OP?  His post is  incendiary and poorly supported, and there is no reason to take his word as gospel until more information is received

I don't typically hover over a keyboard every day. Im not on here that often to prevent myself from getting into arguments and listen to people criticize unlike (people like yourself). In fact I am a hunter just like everyone on here, been hunting since I was 8, now im 28. I got the information from the land owners who have to deal with elk problems day in and day out 360 days a year (unlike yourself). These farmers loose thousands of dollars in there hay crops and I just wanted to inform the fellow hunters about this Bull $hit! So thanks to the people that wanted the info....I actually spoke with Brandon and the land owners today and they shut down for the weekend. They will start again next week. I was also informed that the meat is going to tribal food banks instead of our own which is crap! our hard earned money and tax dollars spent to provide more elk to the tribes, Shocker...... Also the reason why they are shooting bulls is because they dfw gave damage tags out and were all filled (total of cows that I know of taken not to count the archery and muzzy tags for that unit. There is an over abundance of bulls in this area due to tags never given out....This is why they are getting rid of them the way they are.

[pianoman9701]

Who, from wdfw, can we email about this?

I would not bother with DFW . I would rattle local reps. Starting with Kirk Pearson.
He is holding a senate resource meeting in Mount Vernon on Tuesday.

The DFW is not afraid of us. They are afraid of law makers.

I have emailed the DFW about this. I'm expecting some kind of response on Monday.

[jdw12885]

Is this gmu near the elk area that got all the bad press a few years ago when some people got video of the elk being arrowed in the pasture?

I could see WDFW wanting to control numbers in a way that they felt would get the job done quick and quiet.

that hunt took place across the river from this area I mentioned. But yes, same unit just across the river.

[turkeyfeather]

I would like to see problem elk relocated across the river into the hills of the sauk unit.

The OP did say the shooting was on the S Skagit highway

Do you just enjoy trying to discredit everyone? Go back and read my post about the problem elk on hiway 20 and the watchable wildlife area. The op was talking about S. Skagit,  i was not. I have many co-workers that have these elk in there yards daily. I have second hand info from what i consider to be a reliable source, but sharing it here will be a waste of my time obviously.

What I was trying to point out, is that the problem is on the south side of the river, right where you want to relocate the north side animals to.  One doesn't have to be the smartest man in the room to wonder if that would not exacerbate the problem.

Sorry I got you  butt hurt

Maybe you should say that in the first place then instead of trying to bait someone into an argument. 

[jdw12885]

I received what I feel is the final conformation just now.

This is happening. Shooters from the USDA are doing it. I have known this person more than 20 years. He is straight up with me.

He said in a short answer to a email I sent  Yes by the USDA.

So I was a doubter, now I am 100% convinced.

To the OP thank you for the heads up.


For myself I am sickened . The elk are a problem, but hunters could have been part of the solution. Why not shoot them if they must and let un filled tag holders tag the meat. At least some of the folks who plug down there cash for tags and permit draws could maybe get some thing back.

Your Welcome!

[huntnphool]

Why would anyone doubt the op? I belive him. This is exactily why people aee upset with the dfw. Over 50 elk have been hit by rigs this year from those herds. There is a problem. They should have handled it through a general season late hunt. Too many of us buy tags to see animals go to the soup kitchen.

Maybe because he has 21 posts, and started this thread about secret Federal agents shooting elk in the dark.  His information is second hand, and to those who seek more proof he answers "go up there and look". 

To you, Mr Elk247, I answer, why would you believe the OP?  His post is  incendiary and poorly supported, and there is no reason to take his word as gospel until more information is received

I was also informed that the meat is going to tribal food banks instead of our own which is crap! our hard earned money and tax dollars spent to provide more elk to the tribes

And one of the reasons why I said its comical and laughed that it's the USDA in charge. If it's not "USDA Approved" it's typically not ok'ed for donation, I guess it doesn't have to be for tribal consumption.

Oh the irony!!!

[Tbar]

Elk247 there has been at least 2 relocation projects into 437. They were put into what was a very sustainable habitat away from the valley floor. Both groups are now in river valleys with damage concerns/complaints. It is not as easy as one might think (this took failure for me to believe).

Ghost hunter I believe a public explanation will come. Calling Kirk Pearson accomplishes what? Many of his constituents come from the farm community and are begging for some sort of relief. This may be a overall popular decision outside the hunting community. I would call the wdfw with concerns.

[elk247]

My butts just fine. Troll on bro.