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Offline pianoman9701

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #90 on: October 29, 2013, 11:53:01 AM »
The past few years, I've given up using "harvest" or "kill", and have gone to "scare".  :bash: :bash:
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #91 on: October 29, 2013, 11:59:32 AM »
Gosh I love words and the chaos they create.   :chuckle:

Henceforth all beers I drink will be referred to as slain or slayed.  Animals however are still merely hunted as I have yet to slay anything...except that rat in the grain that I dropped my hammer (3lb in case it matters) on.  I have caught and slain fish a nice swift konk over the head with an old axe handle works well :dunno:

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #92 on: October 29, 2013, 12:19:35 PM »
I never understood that term. I think that is a term developed for TV to make hunting shows appear to be more sensitive.

No, the word harvest did not come from the TV.  It has been said for years and is a tradition term, I will admit that part.  Hunting with the old timers back in my youth they loved to hunt but looked at it as a harvest.  Meaning hunters can't just get anything and everything at any time.  We have to let the wildlife rest, breed, develop, be selective, and a process.  Also manage habitat is a big subject as well, no soil and water equals no crop as well as no habitat equals no wildlife.   

Kill in the dictionary uses many harsh words to describe, such as deprive, suffer, destroy, weaken, pain, neutralize, dilute, defeat, and very funny.

Those words have never come to mind when I hunt.   

     
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #93 on: October 29, 2013, 12:24:29 PM »
Although I do not agree with the OP, you manly-men calling out his manhood are over the top.  BTW, where do you get the "man card"?  Maybe you guys should man-up and let us know how to maximize our manliness. 

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Don't you get cards for fighting off multiple german shepards and their angry owner?  :peep:

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #94 on: October 29, 2013, 12:35:56 PM »
Only if you bite each shepard at least once or the bite the owner a total of bites equal to the number of shepards. 
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #95 on: October 29, 2013, 02:41:27 PM »
Many states have harvest tags for killing an animal. Washington uses transport tags. I've never heard of a kill tag tho, but you do need to kill them to harvest them or transport them. Well not always, but it is safer.

Ya I tried to transport a coyote that was not all the way harvested one time. Must have been knocked out for a few hours. Anyway, long story short, went to grab a drink out of the bed of the truck and he was snarling at me sitting up. :yike:, 509er distracted him while I grabbed his tail to get him out so I could harvest him one more time. My all time favorite campfire story to date.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #96 on: October 29, 2013, 02:58:04 PM »
I have "harvested", "taken", "took" and "killed" lots of different animals.I say them all. It pretty much depends on the conversation and with who Im talking to. Im not PC and Im not snooty but each word can be used adequately. With this being said, I have never "killedt" an animal. Killed does sound like a horrible word. But sometimes it flows perfectly. Like on opening day of rifle deer. As I recall my words being something like....."you just killed that mother*censored*er". Say it how ya want. There is no sugar coating with me.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #97 on: October 29, 2013, 03:00:44 PM »
I killed my deer and thus reincarnated into a new life in a new body that may be human, animal or spiritual depending on the moral quality of the previous life's actions. I hope he turns out as a rabbit and is able to harvest lots of seeds and nuts  :IBCOOL:

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #98 on: October 29, 2013, 03:11:17 PM »
If you're a man, you've just lost your man card..
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #99 on: October 29, 2013, 03:27:10 PM »
Well ...he could be like my mother  :chuckle: :chuckle: she always ask me if I caught anything  :dunno: :yike:

Did she ask this after cougar hunting?  :chuckle:

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #100 on: October 29, 2013, 09:34:37 PM »
At the license dealer they ask "how many forest grouse did you harvest last year" seems weird they would say "kill" for deer and elk.
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #101 on: October 30, 2013, 12:04:20 AM »
Grouse are like apples...sitting in the tree waiting to be plucked!
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #102 on: October 30, 2013, 02:30:36 AM »
At the license dealer they ask "how many forest grouse did you harvest last year" seems weird they would say "kill" for deer and elk.

Game birds and game animals are a states bounty.  As are the product of a farmers field.  So I assume "Harvest Reports" would then be the appropriate verbiage.  They do list kills per hunter as a "Success Ratio" instead of a "Harvest Ratio".  That is probably appropriate too as they are then listing the individuals kill rather than the broader states over all harvest.

Again I could care less what individuals choose to call it.  And for me I will always harvest the meat from the animals I kill.  If someone who prefers "undocumented immigrant", "eastern combatant" and "whatever ancestors birth place American" has a problem with it.  I guess that's too bad for them.  Denial of reality is not my thing.
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #103 on: November 01, 2013, 02:18:34 PM »
Your a deer slayer / killer / life ender / smiter...i.e. I hope you get the point. You killed it. It's 'life blood' was drained BECAUSE YOU POKED IT REALLY HARD WITH AN ARROW OR BULLET. It didn't say, "oh how awesome I'm being harvested!" It probably bleated...pumped...tried to scamper off, fell over, bled out, and died. You killed it!!!!! Killer!!!!!!! And most important of all, it's OK. Good job! Congratulations! We are not harvesters...I don't farm deer. I seek to deprive them of their life and habitat...err, change their habitat to resemble my freezer. I don't save their seeds...yuk...I don't replant for next year...I'm a killer, and am totally comfortable with that. Man up, enjoy the meat, or drop it off at my house and swear off hunting...er, killing! Either way...no more of this nonsense...  :rolleyes:

Harvest is a no nonsense word for responsibility.  So no I did not kill because just a deer in the woods.  Now, can agree it might make people wannabe killers based on other comments here, but in reality not killers.  Sorry for not being in the "wannabe" crowd. 
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #104 on: November 01, 2013, 02:26:07 PM »
Be in whichever crowd you please.....kill or harvest....no skin off anyones back other than campfire conversation. You still hunt and if you keep doing so I hope you successfully harvest whatever it is you are chasing...ducks, shrooms, lions, tigers, or bears oh my. How you harvest/kill your game is what makes you what you are as a hunter...not the term you choose when you are successfull.

 


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