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Offline h20hunter

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2013, 04:11:42 PM »
Now I have to disagree....

Kill may mean that to you, which is fine. However, just like harvest means something else to the next guy it doesnt mean it is wrong.

From dictionary.com...

kill1  /kɪl/ Show Spelled [kil] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1. to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay. Synonyms: slaughter, massacre, butcher; hang, electrocute, behead, guillotine, strangle, garrote; assassinate.
2. to destroy; do away with; extinguish: His response killed our hopes. 
3. to destroy or neutralize the active qualities of: to kill an odor. 
4. to spoil the effect of: His extra brushwork killed the painting. 
5. to cause (time) to be consumed with seeming rapidity or with a minimum of boredom, especially by engaging in some easy activity or amusement of passing interest: I had to kill three hours before plane time.

To deprive life. That is what the bullet/arrow/knife does.

We kill animals in order to consume their meat.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2013, 04:14:06 PM »
If you're a man, you've just lost your man card..

Good, because I don't want the definition of your man card anyways. 
Don't read my post if facts hurt your feeling.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2013, 04:18:49 PM »
Deciding which term best fits your definition doesn't have anything to do with your man card. They are just winding you up....no need to get all offended.....just having a discussion here.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2013, 04:19:01 PM »
Now I have to disagree....

Kill may mean that to you, which is fine. However, just like harvest means something else to the next guy it doesnt mean it is wrong.

From dictionary.com...

kill1  /kɪl/ Show Spelled [kil] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1. to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay. Synonyms: slaughter, massacre, butcher; hang, electrocute, behead, guillotine, strangle, garrote; assassinate.
2. to destroy; do away with; extinguish: His response killed our hopes. 
3. to destroy or neutralize the active qualities of: to kill an odor. 
4. to spoil the effect of: His extra brushwork killed the painting. 
5. to cause (time) to be consumed with seeming rapidity or with a minimum of boredom, especially by engaging in some easy activity or amusement of passing interest: I had to kill three hours before plane time.

To deprive life. That is what the bullet/arrow/knife does.

We kill animals in order to consume their meat.
you forgot bumper/windshield
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2013, 04:20:04 PM »
I also forgot paddle....thought that was pretty funny from a pervious post.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2013, 04:22:15 PM »
Well ...he could be like my mother  :chuckle: :chuckle: she always ask me if I caught anything  :dunno: :yike:

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2013, 04:23:00 PM »
It's a survey.
The WDFW can't use the term harvest because that term, by definition, is not what we do as hunters. We killed the deer.  Period!!!

Now, I would suppose we taxpayers/license purchasers have provided the WDFW with some fancy computers.  Them computers have a thesaurus on them.  I know mine does.

They had options.... slay, slaughter, murder, execute, exterminate, eradicate, assassinate, massacre, dispatch, etc, etc, etc.

I could go for the term dispatch if the word kill is too rough on some.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2013, 04:25:41 PM »
Long story short, only hunted birds since the reporting process for big game began because of no success back then so this was my 1st deer harvested and tag I bought in a long time and will never let this terrible experience happen again.

So, just so I get this right -

You never want to let this terrible experience OF REPORTING YOUR DEER AS A KILL happen again??  Or was it the actual killing, er, harvesting, that you found so despicable?  I've harvested a few rows of grain and killed a few deer in my day.  The harvest and the kill are different.  You  have to hunt to get your kill.  If you have to hunt to get your harvest, better find another way of farming.
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2013, 04:27:54 PM »
Valid question...........I missed that part.

Because of the term you are done deer hunting? For real?

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2013, 04:29:01 PM »
Valid question...........I missed that part.

Because of the term you are done deer hunting? For real?
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2013, 04:32:21 PM »
"Harvest mean success, taking the time to prepare, packing the animal out, and teaching that part of the sport as well. Kill just means nothing else and teaches nothing else about what we have to do."

I can see what you are trying to say and where you are coming from personally.

But in the subject of your original post, ie: the WDFW report, the highlighted part is all that matters for the report you filed...WDFW wants to know if you killed an animal, not whether you enjoyed it, learned or taught anyone anything or will ever do it again.

It is a statistical tool, not a life enrichment or altering program.   The word kill clearly bothers you, but in the end, it is the action taken in order to get your game bird or animal.

Hunting is not always killing, killing is not the definitive definition of hunting, but killing is part of hunting and the generally accepted objective.

Congrats on your critter, hope you have many wonderful meals and memories.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2013, 04:33:12 PM »
It seems like you have had too much politically correct BS hammered into your subconcious. Killing stuff is what we do as hunters. Nothing wrong with it. It is management of the species.

So when we say we are going deer hunting we are being politically correct?  Your answer must be going deer killing.  Also when we hunt legal we must be politically correct as well? 

So if you are hunting legal don't tell me about being politically correct.

You lost me.

My post wasn't meant to offend you. I just meant that you shouldn't let the fact that you might offend some unwashed, crusty, pot-smoking hippie stop you from calling it what it is. Whether you say harvest or kill or that you sent your deer on a first class flight to the big green pasture in the sky, the end result is the same.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2013, 04:36:28 PM »
Just a tire that you are trying to let the air out of.  Tomato/tomahtoh.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2013, 04:38:47 PM »
 :yeah:

I like "dirt nap" too.  Can we get some more suggestions for alternatives to "Kill" for hdshot?

"put X's on his eyes"
etc...

When fishing, I give keepers the ol' "hickory haircut" or an "hickory shampoo".  The big ones I have to lather, rinse and repeat... :chuckle:
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2013, 04:41:38 PM »
Put the pipe away...I know it's legal and all. First you kill, then you eat. Fish and birds too. I guess the mushrooms I eat are killed when I cut them off at the base. He may have talked the deer to death........ Just saying!!

 


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