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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #210 on: February 12, 2014, 11:04:31 AM »
If there is a way to harvest meat without killing an animal I would love to see it...

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #211 on: February 12, 2014, 11:07:06 AM »
hdshot did you tag your deer?/ reason i ask is because it states in the reg's and on the tag itself :
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•• Immediately and completely remove the tag
notches that indicate the month and day the
animal was killed.
•• Immediately attach your appropriate tag to the
animal you've killed.
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So if you tagged it you acknowledge that you killed it as per following the instructions, or did you not tag it?
To hunt and butcher an animal is to recognize that meat is not some abstract form of protein that springs into existence tightly wrapped in cellophane and styrofoam.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #212 on: February 12, 2014, 11:10:53 AM »
If there is a way to harvest meat without killing an animal I would love to see it...

 :chuckle: tranquilizers and a good clean Havalon knife and you might be able to pull a tenderloin or enough for a few sliders.
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #213 on: February 12, 2014, 11:12:06 AM »
If there is a way to harvest meat without killing an animal I would love to see it...

I wouldn't want to see that at all... sounds like a bad scene from "Hostel IV" or something.
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #214 on: February 12, 2014, 11:15:39 AM »
If there is a way to harvest meat without killing an animal I would love to see it...

 :chuckle: tranquilizers and a good clean Havalon knife and you might be able to pull a tenderloin or enough for a few sliders.

I wouldn't eat it after its been tranquilized the drugs would either kill you or mess you up bad lol

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #215 on: February 12, 2014, 12:23:38 PM »
This thread is like a bad rerun of a single season sitcom.  :bash:

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #216 on: February 12, 2014, 01:22:41 PM »
If there is a way to harvest meat without killing an animal I would love to see it...

I wouldn't want to see that at all... sounds like a bad scene from "Hostel IV" or something.

There was some Japanese chef that cut a piece of his rear off and cooked it up.  I think it was done in a sukiyaki.  If that matters  :chuckle:
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #217 on: February 12, 2014, 01:39:14 PM »

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #218 on: February 12, 2014, 01:54:49 PM »

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #219 on: February 12, 2014, 01:58:03 PM »
Got me. Problem (one of many)  I see is if he did it wrong he could have harvested himself!

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #220 on: February 12, 2014, 06:51:09 PM »
I am from the old school so what I am going to say will probably make someone mad.   When you grow a garden and pick from it,its called harvesting.  When you hunt and kill an animal or anything else you killed it. This political correctness is a bunch of BS. When you hunt an animal and kill it  then, you killed it. I have no problem with that and never did.  When a person comes over to my house and sees the mounts on my wall and says, did you catch all those I quickly correct the person and say you mean did I kill those animals.  I suppose when you go to the super market you are buying some harvested beef. No, you are buying some meat that someone else killed. Any meat you eat was killed and any fish you eat was killed so you can eat.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #221 on: February 21, 2014, 11:29:43 AM »
Killing is serious stuff. It is heavy duty and should be taken that way.

 :yeah: rifles, pistols, and bows are killing tools, I would freak if someone pointed one at me because it is designed to kill. 

I am not afraid if someone points a combine or apple ladder at me because they are designed to harvest.

hdshot, when it appears that the entire hunting community is not agreeing with you I think you got your answer.

Yes and no I got my answer.  No one seems to understand or care hunter reports are just a tool to manage. 

On the yes part.  As a hunter I have always looked at our sport as a privilege, freedom, reality, and responsibility that is for keeps. I have come to realize other hunters can't use common sense and looks at our sport as a video game.  So I'm going to let my subscriptions for habitat run out, donate no more money or time towards habitat, and stop volunteering at hunters education.  It's your sport, advertise the way you want.  I'm just going to buy what the law makes us to hunt because not going to spend any more of my hard earned money to help this type of behavior survive demonstrated by other hunters on here. 

I would like to say thank you to the Hunting Washington Forum.       
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #222 on: February 21, 2014, 11:39:17 AM »
You are welcome. I have found the discussion quite interesting. I don't disagree with you on most of your points. However...I'm a hunter of animals. In order to consume them I must kill them first. I don't see it as a video game, try my best to put on a positive image to others. My idea of a positive image is one that focuses on the hunt, the conversation, the utilization of a renewable (when managed properly of course) resource, a provider of healthy meat for my family, and am doing my best to instill in my children the importance of respecting where our food comes from and being as big a part of that as we can be. I enjoy some Call of Duty as well as a bit of Skylanders when the boy talks me into it. However, the two are unrelated. I'm sorry if you are blinded and refuse to accept that I can KILL an animal and still be a good representation of the hunting community. If you would like I have some vegan friends that I have talked with many times over some fine food that fit both our tastes. You are welcome to come, visit, and convince them that I am the problem, that because I kill animals I'm the problem. I'll even spoil it for you....you are the only one that has a problem with the 98% of hunters, not them.

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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #223 on: February 21, 2014, 11:45:57 AM »
I watched "Harvest Bill" last night.

Uma Thurman is such a bad@$$   :rockin:

jokes, thanks for the entertainment hdshot  :tup:
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Re: Harvest not kill?
« Reply #224 on: February 23, 2014, 04:59:59 PM »
 :twocents: Wow this thread was crazy just read all of it. Now hdshot you want to be political correct about what hunters do and we all know that to each other as hunters  we "kill" the animals we hunt but if you want to hel[p explain to people who not a clue about what your talking about just tell them your in "wildlife management".That's the term we have to use for court rooms,meetings,as a wildlife technician  Not gonna lie I deal with hard core kill everything guys and hug every fluffy bunny kind of tree hugger out there.We use the term wildlife management because no one can argue that what you are doing is managing wildlife as a population.If the term kill in the reports upsets you than that's a personal issue for yourself.When you call in we want to know if you killed a deer not because we care if you got meat or not FYI "some tags are meant to just kill deer not harvest them" the WDFW want's to know if you killed a animal to affect the population projections.I wouldn't take this personal at all if you want to you could call the WDFW or write them a letter telling you that your upset of the term in the record system being used.If it was just me I would say that I am part of wildlife management and leave it at that.???

Just reported a deer I harvested.  But the questions only asked if I killed it which made me feel like I did something illegal.  Why is the word kill used because that is a word to describe an illegal act in most cases?  Hunters don't kill, we harvest legal as if the animal was like a berry we pick in the summer as example.     

The main thing that makes me upset is we are looked at as killers as I found out these days and we allowed that to happen?  If my report was not done already I would call it in to talk with a person and they would have to ask me for the report and change the word from kill to harvest because I did not kill anything.  Gawd, I'm so PO'ed with myself to fall in that trap!  :bash: 

Long story short, only hunted birds since the reporting process for big game began because of no success back then so this was my 1st deer harvested and tag I bought in a long time and will never let this terrible experience happen again.

 


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