Best of the west

[coachcw]

I have a huskima system and love it ! if you shoot a bunch and want to use one scope on different riffles then nightforce would probilly be a better choice . the huskima system is easy to use and extremely effective and makes it pretty simple for guys that aren't range junkies. the shooters shop in ghram is a dealer and can set one up for you . the level and the angle meter in my mind are necessary on the system . I believe that with a savage long range hunter in 300wm and some good loads  the gun would out shoot most of our abillitys . you'd be in a complete package under 3k . to pay another two k to get better performance that you wont see is a bit over kill . if I was going to build another lr system from scratch it would be on a 30-378 platform I'd start with a mark v and use a #4 contour 30 inch pipe with a break with the huskima system would be a killer set up with the 210's.

[JPhelps]

My opinion: the huskemaw and leupold cds are fine out to 500 yards in conditions close to what the turret was built for.

Now 500+ there needs to be more thought put into it. There is no reason someone shouldn't be dialing MOA or MILS for the atmospheric conditions.  No advantage for yardage on the turret when shooting at distance.

My 

[fishngamereaper]

2.5 moa.....I got better results from my Win Mdl 70 and my Rem 700, both in .308. Both had Mark v scopes on them and both shot sub moa at 1200 yards.

Never shot the Huskima system. Seems like a good set up. When it comes to long distance, more of the accuracy is based on the shooter not the gun.

[BKMFR]

I have had the Huskemaw on a HS Precision .257 Weatherby and it worked fine. Now shooting a Gunwerks 6.5x284 with the Nightforce and G7 rangefinder set-up, personally like the Gunwerks better, and know there is less expensive ways to get there, but hitting targets out to 1140 yds is something I have now been able to do(at least once) if things are right. Biggest learning experience for me was, how much canting your gun even a little bit makes such a huge difference way out there.... I do actually have the Leupold 4.5x14x40 with 30mm tube-side focus with cds that is much more compact and probably better for hiking, but tough to beat nightforce optics.....  If I had to choose just one for all around hunting/long-range everything, it would probably be the Leupold....

[longrange7mm]

Go with Gunwerks or RBros over worst of the west nothing against cooper arms they make a great rifle...I have had 5 huskemaws and shelled 3.  Supposedly the new blue diamond is tougher but I will not take there word on that.. 24"group at a 1000 yards is unacceptable.. Plus after watching a few Episodes of BOTW I watched one where Latt was elk hunting and they were filming a bull he was going to shoot and he passed because of to much wind but there was a bull on the lower corner of the screen dragging his ass off the hillside that the editors missed. I brought this up on there FB page and they deleted my comment and blocked me lol lost all aspects of respect for any one in that group after that..

I have swapped to Nightforce G7 and have not been disappointed yet, so far this season its taken 2 muleys, 2 bulls, 1 bear, 6 coyotes and 4 antelope shots ranging from 120 yards to 1226 yards. The rifle I had built this summer by Gunwerks is there L.R.Rem package chambered in the 7mm LRM I am shooting there load with the 180 gr Berger and my 3 shot groups @ 1000 yards range from 4.5"-8" depending on me
If your interested in Gunwerks shooting system send me a PM and I can get you pointed in the right direction

Bull pictured below was @ 1240 corrected distance using the BR2 rangefinder was 1226 as you can see by the placement of the shot no complaints about this shooting system!!

[coachcw]

nice  shot !

[trophyhunt]

longrange7mm, I was wondering what you meant about shelling 3 of your huskemaw scopes? I have had mine since the first days and haven't had any problems, I'm not being a wise azz, I just want to know if I should be looking out for something in the future with my scope.  When I first got the scope it was a bit intimidating, I'm not a shooting master, I came to miss my leupold 4x12. But after a few years and a couple kill shots at 550 yards on a bear and elk, I'm a lot more happier. I haven't had to deal with the wind with both shots, I don't think I would take the shot without a wind meter at those distances.  In the end I wish I would have had them set it up, I put it on my browning .300 win mag and sighted it in myself.  That was a pain in the butt just finding an area I could sight in at 650 yards.  I had to first sight at 200, give them the info, temp, elevation and bullet speed. Then they built my turret, if this scope fails on me, I will just put my leupold back on.

[Taco280AI]

For scopes I'd look at Vortex's tacticals or a Nightforce for long-range stuff

[longrange7mm]

longrange7mm, I was wondering what you meant about shelling 3 of your huskemaw scopes? I have had mine since the first days and haven't had any problems, I'm not being a wise azz, I just want to know if I should be looking out for something in the future with my scope.  When I first got the scope it was a bit intimidating, I'm not a shooting master, I came to miss my leupold 4x12. But after a few years and a couple kill shots at 550 yards on a bear and elk, I'm a lot more happier. I haven't had to deal with the wind with both shots, I don't think I would take the shot without a wind meter at those distances.  In the end I wish I would have had them set it up, I put it on my browning .300 win mag and sighted it in myself.  That was a pain in the butt just finding an area I could sight in at 650 yards.  I had to first sight at 200, give them the info, temp, elevation and bullet speed. Then they built my turret, if this scope fails on me, I will just put my leupold back on.

My first two were on a 338 RUM the gun was to much for that scope and it couldn't handle the recoil, by shelled I mean they quite tracking at exactly 1/3 MOA per click.  After the first two my buddy who was one of BOTW's gunsmiths just rebarreled my 338 RUM into a 7RUM and we put a third scope on it I got about 300 rounds down the tube before it quite tracking!! This last scope took place during the big break up of Gunwerks and Best of the west.. I returned my one huskemaw in for warranty and put it on a 2506 AI for my little sisters and it shoots awesome on that heavy no recoil gun and sold the other 2 I had and just went with the nightforce G7 scopes for my rifles..

[rbros]

24" at 1k is definitely not acceptable.  3-4" is really what a guy is looking for in a custom rifle if the shooter is up to it.  Yes, 1moa is still most likely a dead animal, but not precise enough.  I hate to throw in a shameless plug, but really hate to see a guy spend that kind of money and be disappointed with the results.  On the optics, the Huskema is really an overprice Leupold.  Glass isn't any better and they aren't as durable.  I have seen a bunch of them fail.  There are 2 ways to go, buy a Leupold and have the turret installed, or buy a NF and just be done with it.  I currently have 2 Leupold prototypes in the shop they sent to play with for awhile and they do show promise as well as having a nice MOA reticle in them.  (Don't ask, I have been told to not give out any details on them yet.)

Gunwerks has a solid reputation and they build a nice rifle.  A little pricey for what a guy gets, but they have the entire system all put together for guys to speed up the process.

Rumor has it there will be a pretty good offering tonight on the R Bros Facebook page.

[jackmaster]

before john left best of the west werent they using the leo vII and III? I know that was the type of scope we were shooting off his 7mm ultra mag.

[rbros]

That is correct.  John was using VXIII's and now Greybull Precision sells that scope.

[jackmaster]

That is correct.  John was using VXIII's and now Greybull Precision sells that scope.

:tup:thank you, is that a long range set up that you would stand behind, i sure was impressed, i am by far a marksman like some, but i have done my share of distance shooting, and the things i did with johns set up was just flat amazing and man it was a blast, the longest shot we made was 700 ft short of a mile. it was amazing what it could do at that range 

[rbros]

The Leupold 4.5-14 is a good scope.  This reticle I am working on with them currently will be available in it next year I think.  Add a turret to one and you have a solid scope for way less than a Huskema or the Grey Bull Leupold.  Add it to a accurate rifle and you will be amazed.  With a proper setup and someone telling a guy what to do, making hits at distance is much easier.  I have set up lots of guys/gals behind my comp or hunting rifles and had them make first round hits out past 1K.  It is a blast when the setup will do what a guy wants, then its just practice.

[jackmaster]

The Leupold 4.5-14 is a good scope.  This reticle I am working on with them currently will be available in it next year I think.  Add a turret to one and you have a solid scope for way less than a Huskema or the Grey Bull Leupold.  Add it to a accurate rifle and you will be amazed.  With a proper setup and someone telling a guy what to do, making hits at distance is much easier.  I have set up lots of guys/gals behind my comp or hunting rifles and had them make first round hits out past 1K.  It is a blast when the setup will do what a guy wants, then its just practice.

i hunt with a ruger #1 single shot falling block in 30-06, i have shot alot of differant rifles in my time,and so far my ruger shoots the best, so if i am shooting 165gr out of it what would be my max effective range, i know how to shoot always have, but man that ballistic stuff is a mystery, it might as well be japanese.