aint no grouse, the mucks gottem all

seriously though, its weird some places have quite a few birds and other places have zero birds when there were plenty of birds there at one time. i blame it on the possums and spraying, i beleive your best bet is walkn old alder roads that you cant drive on especially if there is some sort of creek along oneside of the road, old huckle berry stumps, old blackberry bushes, but alder patches are still a great place to find them especially if the snow berries are around and old salmon berry bushes, otherwise just drive slow and pick low branches and stumps apart

good luck..