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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2013, 06:57:15 PM »
I wouldn't eat it, but i might cook it and feed it to my dog.

That'd probably not be a good idea unless you really charred it up.  It is a protozoan that needs to live in a carnivore's digestive tract as part of its live cycle...

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/chapter_28.pdf

You do not have to char it to kill it. If you cook it to the right temp, it will be no threat. My dog will be safe. Thanks for the concern though!  :tup:

Sittin here looking at my mutt... he says he'd be willing to take the chance :chuckle:
I'm sure you're right, probably wouldn't hurt them at all if you killed the little buggers.  Hell, I've seen my boy chow down on a steaming log from another dog, so I'd bet a little bit of cooked protozoa ain't going to hurt anything...

Your dog will be fine, just cook it thoroughly. It's safe for people too, I just can't do it.

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2013, 07:52:17 PM »
One of you should cook it up and take pictures after it's cooked up.  Who wants to be the ginny pig?
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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2013, 10:09:33 PM »
I wouldn't eat it, but i might cook it and feed it to my dog.

That'd probably not be a good idea unless you really charred it up.  It is a protozoan that needs to live in a carnivore's digestive tract as part of its live cycle...

http://www.nwhc.usgs.gov/publications/field_manual/chapter_28.pdf

You do not have to char it to kill it. If you cook it to the right temp, it will be no threat. My dog will be safe. Thanks for the concern though!  :tup:

Sittin here looking at my mutt... he says he'd be willing to take the chance :chuckle:
I'm sure you're right, probably wouldn't hurt them at all if you killed the little buggers.  Hell, I've seen my boy chow down on a steaming log from another dog, so I'd bet a little bit of cooked protozoa ain't going to hurt anything...

Your dog will be fine, just cook it thoroughly. It's safe for people too, I just can't do it.

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Just think how many get eaten by people that pluck and roast... yuck.  One of the widgeon triple I shot last week had it, trap bait.

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2013, 10:40:42 AM »
Eaten several of them,  never heard of rice breast.  Seriously.   

I always make jerky.  Meat never gets that hot.  Now I'm worried!

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2013, 02:46:08 PM »
Eaten several of them,  never heard of rice breast.  Seriously.   

I always make jerky.  Meat never gets that hot.  Now I'm worried!

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2013, 03:02:28 PM »
Freezing will kill anything as well.  Would feed to animals (pigs, dogs, etc) or relatives... But wouldn't touch it myself.  I've seen the equivalent of that in silver salmon as well.  Really sad when you are pumped for fresh samon on the BBQ and see those (round and white in salmon) all over and in the fillets  :(

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2013, 03:15:41 PM »
Freezing will kill anything as well.  Would feed to animals (pigs, dogs, etc) or relatives... But wouldn't touch it myself.  I've seen the equivalent of that in silver salmon as well.  Really sad when you are pumped for fresh samon on the BBQ and see those (round and white in salmon) all over and in the fillets  :(

The ones in fish are no real problem as long as you do not eat them raw.  I've eaten my weight in those eating rock fish - tasty!  Connective tissue worms in bear are about the same.  Pick out what you can and try to make it look tasty then cook and eat.  You want to cook bear med well to well anyway since you do have a chance of Tric'.  By the way - Freezing will not kill Tric'!
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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2013, 03:26:21 PM »
Its an aesthetic thing.  For unknown reasons, sarcocysts can be much larger in ducks than other animals.  However, the prevalence of sarcocystis in elk is over 90%, and occurs in all species of deer, pronghorn, bighorn sheep, rabbits, etc.  However, in other species the cysts are microscopic.  If you eat game, you've eaten sarcocystis.  On the bright side, there is no known effect of ingestion by the carnivore host (you, me and the dog): the protozoans reproduce sexually in our GI tract, and are crapped out.  The herbivore host is the one that gets the muscle cysts where the asexual reproductive phase is found, and where very heavy cyst loads can impair muscle function.

That said, I've shot them and disposed of the carcass. 
As long as we have the habitat, we can argue forever about who gets to kill what and when.  No habitat = no game.

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2013, 07:39:19 PM »
Man up, just turn the lights low and chow down. I pick some of the red worms out of rockfish but don't care if I eat a few. Same with a apple that might have a worm in it, don't look at just eat it.
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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2013, 07:56:37 PM »
Freezing will kill anything as well.  Would feed to animals (pigs, dogs, etc) or relatives... But wouldn't touch it myself.  I've seen the equivalent of that in silver salmon as well.  Really sad when you are pumped for fresh samon on the BBQ and see those (round and white in salmon) all over and in the fillets  :(

The ones in fish are no real problem as long as you do not eat them raw.  I've eaten my weight in those eating rock fish - tasty!  Connective tissue worms in bear are about the same.  Pick out what you can and try to make it look tasty then cook and eat.  You want to cook bear med well to well anyway since you do have a chance of Tric'.  By the way - Freezing will not kill Tric'!

 I think he is refering to the Tapioca Disease in salmon, flavor nodules.....they are an infectuous parasite caused puss pocket :puke:

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2013, 09:04:15 PM »
Freezing will kill anything as well.  Would feed to animals (pigs, dogs, etc) or relatives... But wouldn't touch it myself.  I've seen the equivalent of that in silver salmon as well.  Really sad when you are pumped for fresh samon on the BBQ and see those (round and white in salmon) all over and in the fillets  :(

The ones in fish are no real problem as long as you do not eat them raw.  I've eaten my weight in those eating rock fish - tasty!  Connective tissue worms in bear are about the same.  Pick out what you can and try to make it look tasty then cook and eat.  You want to cook bear med well to well anyway since you do have a chance of Tric'.  By the way - Freezing will not kill Tric'!

 I think he is refering to the Tapioca Disease in salmon, flavor nodules.....they are an infectuous parasite caused puss pocket :puke:

Yep, that didn't even click in my mind.  :sry:  I've been having a lot of senior moments lately.  Must be in-between seasons ;)
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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2013, 08:10:06 AM »
I've heard about this before and shot a few myself. However the few I shot, the rice looked much different on my birds. Next time I shoot one I'll save a pic. In my dirty birds, the "rice" was on end portruding from the breast after the skin is peeled. I always threw out carcass, washed hands, knife and work table, then breasted remaining birds. 

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2013, 10:33:54 PM »
Shot a hen ring neck on  Thursday with it.
Straight to the garbage.
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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2013, 10:55:00 PM »
Shot a hen ring neck on  Thursday with it.
Straight to the garbage.

Maybe find a trapper that wants bait.  I also use my carcasses for crab bait.

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Re: Rice breast alert!
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2013, 02:52:10 AM »
Is not it legal to use game birds in traps for bait? Didn't think it was?

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