Timber wolves in 407 GMU

[DeArBuCK4me]

So here is an interesting thing---during the last days of late season I met an old hunter in unit 407 up in the mountain and he told me that our government has introduced wolves in this unit with out telling the public.
Do you believe this? [/b]
he claims to have evidence.
Didn't appear to me like he was joking.
It would explain why so few deer? IDK

[Jonathan_S]

I would like to see the evidence but I wouldn't be necessarily surprised if it were true.

I think the cougar population is the main reason for the low deer population up there.  It was astounding to me how few deer we saw there several years back.

[pianoman9701]

No
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He may not be joking, just uninformed or worse. 
There may be wolves. Whether they were transplanted by the gubmint is another story altogether.

[D-Rock425]

I wish they would put some wolves right in the heart of the unit.  It would be a real eye opener for the wolf lovers when their pets end up as chew toys.

[B-Nut]

While I haven't seen any actual proof of this in the 418 I saw an older lady driving pretty deep into the woods with two large kennels that had some large "huskies" in them. Wasn't sure what to make of it as she went farther than we went.

[jackelope]

Yet another person who claims to have evidence but in actuality, probably doesn't. That's my useless opinion.

A couple wolves is not going to explain a total lack of deer, especially in an area like you're talking about. Maybe an impact on the herd over in the Methow or a place like that, but not in Western Washington.

While I haven't seen any actual proof of this in the 418 I saw an older lady driving pretty deep into the woods with two large kennels that had some large "huskies" in them. Wasn't sure what to make of it as she went farther than we went.

 
There's a huge, obvious, unmistakeable difference between a husky and a wolf.
 

[seth30]

I like D rocks idea

[DeArBuCK4me]

While I haven't seen any actual proof of this in the 418 I saw an older lady driving pretty deep into the woods with two large kennels that had some large "huskies" in them. Wasn't sure what to make of it as she went farther than we went.

The old lady was a game warden in disguise....the huskys were the wolves...I knew it!!

[DeArBuCK4me]

While I haven't seen any actual proof of this in the 418 I saw an older lady driving pretty deep into the woods with two large kennels that had some large "huskies" in them. Wasn't sure what to make of it as she went farther than we went.

Game wardens are dressing now like old ladys and planting wolves in the bush....

[b0bbyg]

Just curious was he stating "timber wolves" or just wolves.

I was under the impression that all the ones around ID, OR, WA were Gray wolves which are larger than the ones that were native years back.

Not to stir the pot just curious what he was actually claiming.

[D-Rock425]

I may be wrong but I thought Timberwolves were larger than grays . 

[Special T]

There ARE wolves in the N 407 and 418. I have seen 4 of them right off  hwy 9 by a quarter mile then had the reference of a coyote. 4 wolves 100yards coyote 25 yards. Wolves have been in 418 for a long time, however i think they are likely the "native" ones not the imports from Makesny Valley via ID. There is game but since the advent of no hound hunting bears and cougars have been allowed to explode. Every redneck from Sedro to Sumas had a toyota with a dog box. Now the are much fewer.

[wildweeds]

My buddy was one of them guys,had 13 cat dogs,he ran bear with them too but he selected and culled for good cat dogs.They were pretty good,when the ban came down the game department  was always knocking on his door to "borrow" the dogs to deal with problem cats.He did it a few times and then told em to get out of his yard,he wasnt feeding them for the state to borrow for free.

There ARE wolves in the N 407 and 418. I have seen 4 of them right off  hwy 9 by a quarter mile then had the reference of a coyote. 4 wolves 100yards coyote 25 yards. Wolves have been in 418 for a long time, however i think they are likely the "native" ones not the imports from Makesny Valley via ID. There is game but since the advent of no hound hunting bears and cougars have been allowed to explode. Every redneck from Sedro to Sumas had a toyota with a dog box. Now the are much fewer.

[b0bbyg]

I may be wrong but I thought Timberwolves were larger than grays .

You could be right, I was hoping someone knew for sure. There have been lots of guys on this and other sites that have put in a bit of research on the matter.

I'm down in the SW parts of the state so have not bumped one of these guys yet. Hope its a few more years before it happens.

[Heredoggydoggy]

Wait until you go to one of your favorite hunting areas, as I did a while back, and see NOTHING!  Not a deer or coyote track, where the year before it was like a game "yard".  I didn't believe a guy that lives near there when he told me that the wolves got everything, but he was right.  There was a 3-day old coat of snow there, and on the way in and out, I used to see numerous tracks where game animals crossed the road.  This time nothing!