Puppy monster

[Don Fischer]

Been waiting a year and a half for this. Pick up my Red Setter put Dec 7th. Guy that has them is going to meet two of us in Goldendale Dec 7th.

[summerb67]

Make that 3 of us. 

[Birdguy]

Good looking little guys. Good luck to all (3) of you  .

[Don Fischer]

Make that 3 of us. 

You, me and a guy from Portland.

[pens fan]

This thread is useless with out pics later on...great news!

[bracer40]

Great looking pups.

[Don Fischer]

This thread is useless with out pics later on...great news!

oh you'll get them. I love photographing dog's.

[Curly]

Nice pics.

Is a red setter the same as an irish setter?

[Red Delicious]

Nice pics.

Is a red setter the same as an irish setter?

They are registered by FDSB as Irish Setters but there is no reciprocity with AKC. In Ireland they use the name Red Setter not Irish Setter. So when the process of bringing them back into the field was started (1950's) they took on the name of Red Setter to differentiate them from the show Varity. The men involved got permission to breed some female Red (Irish) to an Orange and white English. The Irish was used to help develop the English and they tapped back into that gene pool. After breeding back to Irish for 3 generations the pups could be registered as Irish.  You'll never see these in the show ring or at an AKC trial but you will at AFTCA, NSTRA and such. Your best source of information is www.nrsftc.com. There are some nice historical articles about the process taken by a group of sportsmen to bring the Irish back into the field.

Craig O.
 

[wildweeds]

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Nice pics.

Is a red setter the same as an irish setter?

They are registered by FDSB as Irish Setters but there is no reciprocity with AKC. In Ireland they use the name Red Setter not Irish Setter. So when the process of bringing them back into the field was started (1950's) they took on the name of Red Setter to differentiate them from the show Varity. The men involved got permission to breed some female Red (Irish) to an Orange and white English. The Irish was used to help develop the English and they tapped back into that gene pool. After breeding back to Irish for 3 generations the pups could be registered as Irish.  You'll never see these in the show ring or at an AKC trial but you will at AFTCA, NSTRA and such. Your best source of information is www.nrsftc.com. There are some nice historical articles about the process taken by a group of sportsmen to bring the Irish back into the field.

Craig O.

[Red Delicious]

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Can I play?

How have you been E.?

Craig O.

[wildweeds]

Craig,been okay on the short term disabilty that TOTALLY ruined hunting season for me,broken/dislocated fingers on my dominant hand.Tried hunting and quit that with the first recoil of the triggerguard into the splint.You can play if you'd like.It's good to get the word out on the red situation.I know folks used a  famous black and white dog in more recent times.I know a guy who used two reds and full blown red red red dogs and had a litter of 9 black dogs with tan eyebrows and 2 red ones. R.J. is training an ABSOLUTE DANDY female red right now,has several videos of her on his facebook page.

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Can I play?

How have you been E.?

Craig O.

[Don Fischer]

hey Craig, good to see ya here. Stormy is taking over, got a few photo's. Need one of my left fore arm, he shredded it! Love this little guy, sleep's in bed with us.

Stormy's first night home


First day outside. Only one accident in the house so far. He's doing great!




Obvious difference between him and my E. Setter's is he's not aloof, Squirt and Bodie are. By the time my e. Setter's were 8 wks old they were running off given the chance, Stormy doesn't! He doesn't care for the chicken's much though. He'll go with me to the corner of the shop and stop and wait for me!

You gonna put that avatar of Breelie on here?

[Don Fischer]

I was gonna name him but probably not fair! very famous setter!

[Don Fischer]

Craig,been okay on the short term disabilty that TOTALLY ruined hunting season for me,broken/dislocated fingers on my dominant hand.Tried hunting and quit that with the first recoil of the triggerguard into the splint.You can play if you'd like.It's good to get the word out on the red situation.I know folks used a  famous black and white dog in more recent times.I know a guy who used two reds and full blown red red red dogs and had a litter of 9 black dogs with tan eyebrows and 2 red ones. R.J. is training an ABSOLUTE DANDY female red right now,has several videos of her on his facebook page.

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Can I play?

How have you been E.?

Craig O.

Sounds like another Red owner? Your using R.J. Marquart? I knew him years ago, his dad still owned the kennel in Roy them. R.J. was still in high school. He is one of the guy's I always recommend when people ask about trainer's. Him, Dan Hoke and Mike McGinnis. haven't seen R.J. in years.

[yakimarcher]

Setters are great dogs

[wildweeds]

Don,

I'm like Craigs brother Larry, I've got the english side covered but my very first dog was an Irish setter in 1976 .Here's one of my pups. Proof that style can be seen early,18 months and 10 weeks there is a video of this dog on Quicksilver Kennels facebook page as well.

[Happy Gilmore]

LOL... On Facebook!?!?!!!?? hahahaaa

[wildweeds]

Kennels page only Happy, Videos and pictures, he's doing a complete start to finish "gunshy cure" series.Won't post them all until he's completed it.Go watch the red dog,she's NICE!

LOL... On Facebook!?!?!!!?? hahahaaa

[Don Fischer]

Don,

I'm like Craigs brother Larry, I've got the english side covered but my very first dog was an Irish setter in 1976 .Here's one of my pups. Proof that style can be seen early,18 months and 10 weeks there is a video of this dog on Quicksilver Kennels facebook page as well.

Ah, good reason to get my other two boy's in here. You have very good taste in dog's!

Squirt


Bodie

[Red Delicious]

Ernie; Bummer about the finger. My schedule has been so messed up I haven't even bought a hunting license this year.

Do you know anything about the breeding behind the Red R. J. is training? I guess I'll have to join the 18th century and finally sign up for Facebook. It seems you can't see anything there unless you have an account.

I bet you're referring to Mississippi Zev. He's quite important in the resurrection of the hunting instincts in the Red Setter.

Don: Great to see the pics of Stormy. Glad to hear he's settling right in.

Craig O.
 

[wildweeds]

Yup Missisippi Zev,well actually the NRSFTC claims a son of him but I have an old american field around here in a box that had a big write up on the revival of the red setter.It had a few more english names that they used. Col Ed Schnettler was mentioned in that and that's where a couple of Gregs dogs came from.Funny that Freckles is an Irish,what with all that white on her,and her bodystyle.I've seen her pedigree and it's linebred like crazy to Clancy O'ryan.She looks exactly like him.

[Curly]

Great pic of Bodie.

[Don Fischer]

Make that 3 of us. 

Well Stormy has got real comfortable and is in advanced monster mode! How's your's doing? This is a neat pup, think I should get a new one every year!

[Don Fischer]

1946 National Champion Mississippi Zev! Now you know the rest of the story.

Hey Craig. Went to the Central Ore Wirehair Club Christmas party last night. spent the night at Holly's. Wasn't sure she was gonna let me have stormy back. her boy friend even played with him. Step in the right direction! When she got him to get a dog, he showed up with a mangy lookin cattle dog! Now he's considering a pudelpointer?

[Red Delicious]

1946 National Champion Mississippi Zev! Now you know the rest of the story.

Hey Craig. Went to the Central Ore Wirehair Club Christmas party last night. spent the night at Holly's. Wasn't sure she was gonna let me have stormy back. her boy friend even played with him. Step in the right direction! When she got him to get a dog, he showed up with a mangy lookin cattle dog! Now he's considering a pudelpointer?

That's great Don, if he doesn't come around with the right dogs and attitude toward them she should find a new guy. Reminds me of a joke that ends with "send pictures of the boat".

Tell me this little pup isn't going to challenge me every step of the way. Hope he's great when we're done.

[summerb67]

Make that 3 of us. 

Well Stormy has got real comfortable and is in advanced monster mode! How's your's doing? This is a neat pup, think I should get a new one every year!

Red is settled in nice,him and Connor are pretty much inseperatable at this point.He sleeps thru the night and loves to feed the chickens and do the chores with us. As soon as our camera get fixed I will post some pics of him and the boy.

[summerb67]

Welcome to the site Craig and thanks for a great pup,really enjoyed you and your wifes company despite the cold..

[Red Delicious]

Welcome to the site Craig and thanks for a great pup,really enjoyed you and your wifes company despite the cold..

You are more then welcome, nothing like a boy and his dog! We enjoyed you guys also but it was cold.

I heard you and Don talking about this site and thought I'd give it a try. There sure is a lot of interesting and valuable information here.

Looking forward to pictures when the camera is fixed.

We head to Randal Saturday to deliver the last two. Both go to families with two boys each. We raised two boys and that brings back memories.

Take care.

Craig O.