Puppy monster

[Don Fischer]

Been waiting a year and a half for this. Pick up my Red Setter put Dec 7th. Guy that has them is going to meet two of us in Goldendale Dec 7th.

[summerb67]

Make that 3 of us. 

[Birdguy]

Good looking little guys. Good luck to all (3) of you  .

[Don Fischer]

Make that 3 of us. 

You, me and a guy from Portland.

[pens fan]

This thread is useless with out pics later on...great news!

[bracer40]

Great looking pups.

[Don Fischer]

This thread is useless with out pics later on...great news!

oh you'll get them. I love photographing dog's.

[Curly]

Nice pics.

Is a red setter the same as an irish setter?

[Red Delicious]

Nice pics.

Is a red setter the same as an irish setter?

They are registered by FDSB as Irish Setters but there is no reciprocity with AKC. In Ireland they use the name Red Setter not Irish Setter. So when the process of bringing them back into the field was started (1950's) they took on the name of Red Setter to differentiate them from the show Varity. The men involved got permission to breed some female Red (Irish) to an Orange and white English. The Irish was used to help develop the English and they tapped back into that gene pool. After breeding back to Irish for 3 generations the pups could be registered as Irish.  You'll never see these in the show ring or at an AKC trial but you will at AFTCA, NSTRA and such. Your best source of information is www.nrsftc.com. There are some nice historical articles about the process taken by a group of sportsmen to bring the Irish back into the field.

Craig O.
 

[wildweeds]

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Nice pics.

Is a red setter the same as an irish setter?

They are registered by FDSB as Irish Setters but there is no reciprocity with AKC. In Ireland they use the name Red Setter not Irish Setter. So when the process of bringing them back into the field was started (1950's) they took on the name of Red Setter to differentiate them from the show Varity. The men involved got permission to breed some female Red (Irish) to an Orange and white English. The Irish was used to help develop the English and they tapped back into that gene pool. After breeding back to Irish for 3 generations the pups could be registered as Irish.  You'll never see these in the show ring or at an AKC trial but you will at AFTCA, NSTRA and such. Your best source of information is www.nrsftc.com. There are some nice historical articles about the process taken by a group of sportsmen to bring the Irish back into the field.

Craig O.

[Red Delicious]

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Can I play?

How have you been E.?

Craig O.

[wildweeds]

Craig,been okay on the short term disabilty that TOTALLY ruined hunting season for me,broken/dislocated fingers on my dominant hand.Tried hunting and quit that with the first recoil of the triggerguard into the splint.You can play if you'd like.It's good to get the word out on the red situation.I know folks used a  famous black and white dog in more recent times.I know a guy who used two reds and full blown red red red dogs and had a litter of 9 black dogs with tan eyebrows and 2 red ones. R.J. is training an ABSOLUTE DANDY female red right now,has several videos of her on his facebook page.

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Can I play?

How have you been E.?

Craig O.

[Don Fischer]

hey Craig, good to see ya here. Stormy is taking over, got a few photo's. Need one of my left fore arm, he shredded it! Love this little guy, sleep's in bed with us.

Stormy's first night home


First day outside. Only one accident in the house so far. He's doing great!




Obvious difference between him and my E. Setter's is he's not aloof, Squirt and Bodie are. By the time my e. Setter's were 8 wks old they were running off given the chance, Stormy doesn't! He doesn't care for the chicken's much though. He'll go with me to the corner of the shop and stop and wait for me!

You gonna put that avatar of Breelie on here?

[Don Fischer]

I was gonna name him but probably not fair! very famous setter!

[Don Fischer]

Craig,been okay on the short term disabilty that TOTALLY ruined hunting season for me,broken/dislocated fingers on my dominant hand.Tried hunting and quit that with the first recoil of the triggerguard into the splint.You can play if you'd like.It's good to get the word out on the red situation.I know folks used a  famous black and white dog in more recent times.I know a guy who used two reds and full blown red red red dogs and had a litter of 9 black dogs with tan eyebrows and 2 red ones. R.J. is training an ABSOLUTE DANDY female red right now,has several videos of her on his facebook page.

Quiz of the thread............ Name  the English setter they used.Going to be more than one awnser but there is ONE very very famous sire.

Can I play?

How have you been E.?

Craig O.

Sounds like another Red owner? Your using R.J. Marquart? I knew him years ago, his dad still owned the kennel in Roy them. R.J. was still in high school. He is one of the guy's I always recommend when people ask about trainer's. Him, Dan Hoke and Mike McGinnis. haven't seen R.J. in years.