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Northwest English Pointer breeders
« on: December 03, 2013, 03:02:02 PM »
Last night as I was petting my oldest dog I noticed for the first time that he's getting the first hints of gray in his muzzle. With him being 6 and my youngest dog being 3 it got me thinking, I got all of my bird dogs when I lived in the Midwest and two of them are rescues.

Who breeds quality English Pointers in the Northwest?

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2013, 05:50:31 PM »
This is an easy awnser aspen,no one unless your willing to go with  backyard stuff that's overpriced by double,You could ship 2 pups here for the cost of buying one locally.Really you've got a pretty broad query out here,are you looking for blood from coverdog lines,Shooting dog lines or All age lines,Do you prefer Elhew blood,Miller blood,Rebel blood,Fiddler Blood.I'd direct your search to the south.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2013, 07:43:00 PM »
This is an easy awnser aspen,no one unless your willing to go with  backyard stuff that's overpriced by double,You could ship 2 pups here for the cost of buying one locally.Really you've got a pretty broad query out here,are you looking for blood from coverdog lines,Shooting dog lines or All age lines,Do you prefer Elhew blood,Miller blood,Rebel blood,Fiddler Blood.I'd direct your search to the south.

I'm figuring that's the answer. The concern I have is over the new puppy mill rules put in place by the USDA this Fall that essentially force a lot of breeders to get licensed if they are going to ship pups. A lot of breeders are already outright saying you must fly out to get the pup now. If that's what it comes to I will in the future. But if there are alternatives closer to home...

I don't care about blood much as long as the breeding is from proven lineage. I like Elhew but some of the healthier breedings I've seen aren't so closely bred and are a good mix of Elhew, Miller, Fiddler, and various coverdog breeding. I may ultimately go to the kennel from which those dogs came.

I really don't need a horseback dog. But I won't overlook those lines. It's easier to reel in a runner than push out a boot licker.
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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2013, 08:04:48 PM »
There is a breeder in Tri Cities.. she breeds mainly show dogs but they are supposed to be good field dogs as well..
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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2013, 08:37:42 PM »
Actually Aspen you might consider Jon Milum(spelling) in yakima/sunnyside area,Has a son of Fibber Mcgee,used to own multiple Ch Drama Queen(given to him from a member on this board,Member of this board was given the dog by the owner Torben hansen at sunnyside Championships)Milum used it for a breeding and then sold her.Anyway he's got blood and what not.I'll just say I would classify it as a backyard affair to make money.Plenty of well bred pointers in the midwest and south that are bred with performance and a direction in mind pre tie.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2013, 08:46:20 AM »
No issues with shipping puppies. USDA rules don't affect many folks and most will ignore them anyways
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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2013, 01:48:35 PM »
The nice thing is well bred EP's are cheap. You could buy a pup, have it sent, and still come out money ahead. There's tons of well bred EP's down here in the South for $350-$400.  Don't narrow your search either.  Many of the top AA pointers are great foot hunting dogs.  Gary Lester has stated many times that Snowatch is a great foot hunting dog. But break out a horse, and get ready to go like hell.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 09:47:02 AM »
Gary Lester has stated many times that Snowatch is a great foot hunting dog. But break out a horse, and get ready to go like hell.

A lot of the Coverdog lines can be like that, which makes sense as a number of them have at least some HB dog in them.  I'll probably wind up going that route when the day comes if I can't find anything I like out here.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 03:43:39 PM »
The nice thing is well bred EP's are cheap. You could buy a pup, have it sent, and still come out money ahead. There's tons of well bred EP's down here in the South for $350-$400.  Don't narrow your search either.  Many of the top AA pointers are great foot hunting dogs.  Gary Lester has stated many times that Snowatch is a great foot hunting dog. But break out a horse, and get ready to go like hell.

Yeah except the airlines are gonna kill you when it comes to shipping. IF you have a breeder willing to ship (a lot will run scared of the USDA rules) the freight keeps going up and up and up.

I just paid $300 to ship an 8 week old puppy. That did not include crate and Health Cert. The combining of the airlines are not going to do us any favors when it comes to shipping.

There are several very nice dogs in the PAC NW that are being bred. Not all are competition dogs.

If you are within a year of needing a dog, let me know and I will direct you to some folks with some very nice hunting dogs or/and competition/hunting dogs.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2013, 04:59:50 PM »

There are several very nice dogs in the PAC NW that are being bred. Not all are competition dogs.


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How are they proven then?

Since that likely comes off as a snobby comment, and I don't mean it that way, I should probably explain by saying one of the attractions I have to breeders who campaign dogs is it shows me their dogs can handle the pressures of training as well as the physical demands sometimes asked of when hunting. If a litter comes from parents that are proven at the extreme end I will probably have a dog that can do what I want it to and most likely be more forgiving of any training mistakes.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2013, 06:07:38 PM »
Be interesting to see the pedigree on the pointer pictured,The dog has a certain bloodline  "look"  about it that tells me "nope".

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2013, 07:04:11 PM »
I heard Doug at Cokes Canyon has pointer pups right now... not sure of line....

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2013, 09:57:58 PM »
Ron Loomis in Kalispell (Montanabirdogs.com) has Elhew and Guardrail bloodline.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2013, 10:11:24 PM »
Guardrail is good but he's been dead an awful long time wheras dog years is concerned.
Elhew is suspect unless it comes directly from the elhew kennel.First name in pedigree has to have Elhew in order for it to be elhew.Lot's of folks in the last 20 years quick to jump on advertising "Elhew" trying to follow in the steps of ultimate marketeer Robert Wehle.

Ron Loomis in Kalispell (Montanabirdogs.com) has Elhew and Guardrail bloodline.

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Re: Northwest English Pointer breeders
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2013, 12:57:46 PM »
Be interesting to see the pedigree on the pointer pictured,The dog has a certain bloodline  "look"  about it that tells me "nope".

Oh really...do tell which "look" of bloodlines this dog has....I would LOOOOVVVEEE to hear it.

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