snagging

[pens fan]

A co worker said a gamie was going to give him a ticket if he continued using two hands when he set the hook.
I have heard something similar while fishing the Tilton. Where in the regs does it talk about snagging techniques?

[highmuley]

A co worker said a gamie was going to give him a ticket if he continued using two hands when he set the hook.
I have heard something similar while fishing the Tilton. Where in the regs does it talk about snagging techniques?

I can't tell you exactly what page. There is a section defining "snagging". None of us can even begin to guess your coworkers intentions but using 2 hands to set a hook with a salmon rod does look a little suspicious (thats exerting a lot of unnecessary force). It wouldn't have been brought up by a gamey if people didn't snag salmon on a regular. That action is frowned upon on EVERY salmon/steelhead river. My best advice,  if he doesn't want to be harassed by gameys or other sportsman (and woman), is to remove that "hook set action" from their vocabulary.   

[pens fan]

So there is something in the regs about it.

[Bullkllr]

A co worker said a gamie was going to give him a ticket if he continued using two hands when he set the hook.
I have heard something similar while fishing the Tilton. Where in the regs does it talk about snagging techniques?

I can't tell you exactly what page. There is a section defining "snagging". None of us can even begin to guess your coworkers intentions but using 2 hands to set a hook with a salmon rod does look a little suspicious (thats exerting a lot of unnecessary force). It wouldn't have been brought up by a gamey if people didn't snag salmon on a regular. That action is frowned upon on EVERY salmon/steelhead river. My best advice,  if he doesn't want to be harassed by gameys or other sportsman (and woman), is to remove that "hook set action" from their vocabulary.   

From the regs, pg. 11:
Snagging= Attempting to take fish with a hook
and line in such a way that the fish does not
voluntarily take the hook(s) in its mouth. In
freshwater, it is illegal to possess any fish
hooked anywhere other than inside the mouth or
on the head.

I imagine setting the hook excessively could be construed as attempting to snag, even with legal gear.

[pens fan]

Im not opposed to the methods...i just dont like not having specific rules in print about it. Leaving it up to a gamie's discretion is just plain wrong.

[Hunterman]

I hope your co-worker told the gammie to pack sand. Who gives a rats back side if a person uses 1, od 2 hand to set a hook    This is just what I was saying in another thread about game wardens trying the bully tactics. I had on out at Westport threaten to write me a ticket for "Using Salmon Catching Gear" while fishing for bottom fish. Informed him just were he could put his salmon fishing gear ( in no uncertain terms)

Hunterman(Tony)

[The Weazle]

I hope your co-worker told the gammie to pack sand. Who gives a rats back side if a person uses 1, od 2 hand to set a hook    This is just what I was saying in another thread about game wardens trying the bully tactics. I had on out at Westport threaten to write me a ticket for "Using Salmon Catching Gear" while fishing for bottom fish. Informed him just were he could put his salmon fishing gear ( in no uncertain terms)

Hunterman(Tony)

Yeah…I use both hands to set the hook, with all the barbless hooks, etc, I am gonna bury that hook as deep as I can.  I guess I usually use one hand until the other gets there to stabilize the rod and get to cranking, but that gamey is reaching.  I would ask him to show me in the regs where it said I can't use two hands, or prepare his argument for a judge.  I hate cops/wardens/etc that are A@@holes just to be A@@holes...

[highmuley]

I completely agree with what you folks are sayin but I guess it would depend on were the "hook set" occurs. If its on a hit in the middle of your drift or at the end of your drift. People do the two handed aggressive "hook set" at the end with the intention of hopefully snagging a fish. But like I said. ..we can't even pretend to know his intent. And Tony, I've been following the "police state" thread and am aware of were your coming from. Cant say i totally disagree.

[Birdguy]

I have an 11 year old son who uses two hands to set the hook on bluegill, he would use four hands if he had them  . I got whacked last year trout fishing when he was sure he had a bite and ripped that pole back into the side of my head  . I guess he/we would be questioned anytime he is seen. I think that is one of his favorite things about fishing. We do not do much river fishing yet but was his swimming skills increase we will do more.

[Fishaholic]

I hope your co-worker told the gammie to pack sand. Who gives a rats back side if a person uses 1, od 2 hand to set a hook    This is just what I was saying in another thread about game wardens trying the bully tactics. I had on out at Westport threaten to write me a ticket for "Using Salmon Catching Gear" while fishing for bottom fish. Informed him just were he could put his salmon fishing gear ( in no uncertain terms)

Hunterman(Tony)

The gameys out in westport think they know everything. I have corrected  a few of them with the rules book. Best thing to do is carry a rule book in  a zip log bag so you can check a rule. Its just so much easyer  when dealing with game officers .




My son also fishes marlin style when he is trout fishing. when the bobber goes down he jerks up as hard as he can.

[Hunterman]

I hope your co-worker told the gammie to pack sand. Who gives a rats back side if a person uses 1, od 2 hand to set a hook    This is just what I was saying in another thread about game wardens trying the bully tactics. I had on out at Westport threaten to write me a ticket for "Using Salmon Catching Gear" while fishing for bottom fish. Informed him just were he could put his salmon fishing gear ( in no uncertain terms)

Hunterman(Tony)

The gameys out in westport think they know everything. I have corrected  a few of them with the rules book. Best thing to do is carry a rule book in  a zip log bag so you can check a rule. Its just so much easyer  when dealing with game officers .




My son also fishes marlin style when he is trout fishing. when the bobber goes down he jerks up as hard as he can.

Did that with a few choice word to go long with it. My nephew that was with me thought I was going to jail, when I told Mr. Gammie were to go, and moved the boat and went back to fishing.

Hunterman(Tony)

[snowpack]

That gamey is a _____ moron.  He needs a drug test because I imagine he is using what he confiscates.  Using two hands to set a hook is fine, not snagging-- give me a break.  No wonder people think more and more of the LEOs as a joke. 

[akirkland]

I use two hands all the time. You've never drifted eggs or float a bobber with pole in hand and other hand on the handle of the reel? Thats two handle. This is the kind of crap that pisses me off. Fishing legally and a fish cop wants to bust your balls over LEGAL FISHING TECHNIQUES. I've used two hands on the pole hooking, and running up the beach numerous times.

[Antlershed]

I like how everyone quickly jumps all over the gamey while giving the fisherman the benefit of the doubt. My guess is the warden wouldn't have had an issue if there wasn't excessive hook setting taking place.   

[rtspring]

I like how everyone quickly jumps all over the gamey while giving the fisherman the benefit of the doubt. My guess is the warden wouldn't have had an issue if there wasn't excessive hook setting taking place.   

Some of us are fed up with gamies! Wth do you expect..  They try to bully people all the time because they wear a badge...