Muzzy Questions

[Bowtech7]

Im going to muzzle load hunt next year for elk I shot a cow a year ago with my traditions tracker #11 nipple premeasured american Pioneer powder cartridges and a 348 grain powerbelt lead hollow point bullet at 100 yards then shot her again at 50 yards wasnt to impressed with the performance. So my question is is what is a good elk bullet, powder charge etc. for lung shot and bone hard shoulder shot from close range to 150 yards thats does alot of damage? And also will shoot a decent group. Thanks for reading

[oneshot12]

try a patched  round ball and 90 gr of 3 f powder 

[Bowtech7]

Ok I will keep that in mind thank you

[bobcat]

try a patched  round ball and 90 gr of 3 f powder

    For elk? Deer maybe but I wouldn't use a round ball for elk when there are so many other, better options.

I would try the Bloodline bullets that "Sabotloader" is always recommending.

http://www.knightrifles.com/bloodline-bullets

Or if you want a much more inexpensive bullet, try a 400 grain Harvester hard cast bullet.

[Bowtech7]

Not to worried about cost just want good performance I will check those bullets out thanks

[oneshot12]

yep been shooting round ball for a fair amount of time . killed many a critter with it as well .  you just really need to go out and play around with the gun  get real familiar  with how it shoots and what works best in for a load  or bullet for that matter . a friend on her was saying  you can over charge the power belt bullet  and the cup will not do as it suppose to and you will get blow by . so for what its worth you might want to  try a sabot ed bullet    in 50 cal i assume this is what your shooting  then get out to the range and try different powder charges  from say 80 and up to maybe 110  3 f burns fast and gives the better results good luck with your project and have fun

   

[Bowtech7]

Thanks oneshot I will have fun with it I like playing around with new things.

[Bowtech7]

Yes I am shooting a .50 cal

[oneshot12]

I would try the Bloodline bullets that "Sabotloader" is always recommending.
your are correct  Bob cat,  Sabotloader has the right idea   hes been  shooting me a few of his great pointers as well. he was the one that gave me the info on the power belts  .hes a big help  for sure    but i still like the patched  round ball  when your shooting a 1/66 twist  GM barrel

[Bowtech7]

My tracker is a 24" barrel with a 1-28 twist

[bobcat]

With a slow twist- okay. But does a Traditions Tracker have a slow twist? I assumed it was a fast twist but I could be wrong.

[oneshot12]

 Bowtech7
 sabotloader has all kind of great information  ans is more then willing to share .hes been helping me work on loads and bullets for my remington 700 inline  along with sights and so forth   so don't hesitate to chat with him about any question you might have    heck i been shooting black powder for years and its just fun to jaw with some of the others here that been shootin or are just starting out   .most folks her shoot 50 cals but i shoot 54 cals so its nice to have a person like sabotloader to bounce ideas off and get some feedback on  so its ok to ask away
any time

[oneshot12]

no Bob cat  i believe your correct,   at a minimum it would be a 1/48 twist  or even  the 1/28 like my Remington   if it is the faster twist 1/28  the round ball will fly all over the place  and not settle down  so the blood line sabots would be the best  in my book
like i said before sabot loader has been helping me work out some of my bugs on the Remington and hes the hot ticket let me tell ya  lots of help for sure

[MountainDevil54]

Buy some Pyrodex RS.

American Pioneer has a learning curve to it and if you dont know it, most times it wont group for snot. Your bullets are fine for elk, just keep with lung shots like most hunters do. No need to waste meat by shooting it in the shoulder.

[Bowtech7]

Okay oneshot I might chat it up with sabotloader about some stuff. Mountaindevil everyone shoots different I have always been taught to take out the drivers(the shoulder) and have always had good success with I rifle on deer and elk I would rather waste a small amout of meat to know I made a good shot.  obviously a bow is a behind the shoulder weapon.