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Offline Jonathan_S

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2013, 04:27:36 PM »
Hmmm.  Imagine that.

Who would have thought   :dunno:

 :chuckle:
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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 05:30:54 PM »
Hmmm.  Imagine that.
that's it really?  I've been waiting all day for your reaction to this thread and that all I get?

I just figured everyone knows my position on this head.  And I've had plenty of post time to make my point.



But ok, if you want more...;

When Duke Savora worked with the Rhodesian government conducting the Chapinda Pools test they would not allow him to shoot an animal dead center through the heart/lung area.  Their reasoning was you could not receive adequate information on efficiency and effectiveness of the instrument as nearly anything of over 75 caliber would be effective even if only slightly sharp or a low velocity bullet.  Only after much debate and Savora's insistence was it agreed they would take a couple impala with a heart/lung shot as a base line for comparison.  As we sat around the dinning room table eating tacos he described how difficult it actually was to get a good heart/lung shot on the quick and skittish impala.

When a marginal shot is in play no gimmick can overcome the effectiveness of a sharp blade that stays sharp throughout it's penetration of tissue.  Circle cut blades, square blades, triangle blades, four blades, five blades or six blades simply do not add a benefit beyond the marketing and spin of advertising.  Maybe...maybe you can get a better external bleed with four blades over three, but that would be about all one could expect.  That possible advantage can not overcome the disadvantages that come with the additional stimulation of blood platelets'.  Sharpness and blade quality rule all when it comes to marginal shots with a broadhead tipped arrow.  If you want to be serious about killing an animal as fast as possible even when shots don't always find their exact mark leave gimmicks on the playground and shoot a straight razor of quality steel.
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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 05:36:50 PM »
 :bow: :bow: :bow:

Is it just me that gets excited whenever RadSav writes a long post?
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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 05:39:18 PM »
Lol he knows his stuff that's for sure  :tup:
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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 05:54:12 PM »
Well that's way better thanks radsav :tup:

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 05:57:44 PM »
Even though I used toxic broadheads this year, I will not be using them next year. After some messaging back and forth with radsav I would not want to risk under penetration with a toxic broadhead.
Both my deer and my wife's were double lung shot but I do not think toxic broadheads would do very well with a shoulder shot, even though it double lunged the deer I harvested it just barely had complete pass through and that was at 25 yards with a compound bow with a 60#lb draw weight.

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2013, 06:01:23 PM »
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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2013, 06:02:58 PM »
From my experience, sometimes they just don't bleed much externally whether it is a Muzzy MX3 double lunged from a tree stand at 10 yards, a 240 gr 44 mag through both shoulders at 35 yards, a double lung 20 ga slug at 65, or a 50 cal ML at 15 yards that hits liver and both lungs, all pass througths BTW.

Just looked up the Toxics, that's mighty bizarre looking and does look like a gimmick.  Seems like it would tend to allow the wound to close back in behind it and have issues even penetrating with all of that frontal area.   :dunno:


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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2013, 06:15:09 PM »
Mine passed clean threw went about 30 yards and stuck in the dirt 6 inches. But thats just a bowtech for ya :chuckle: like I said. The shot wasnt my best but I felt like the deer would go under 100 yards. I was super confident in everything before we tried finding blood.. slick tricks next year..

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2013, 06:28:22 PM »
Oh boy I'm really starting to question some of your equipment choices toxic now bowtech?  I guess we just figured out why your shot was off its mark :chuckle:

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2013, 06:33:56 PM »
Oh boy I'm really starting to question some of your equipment choices toxic now bowtech?  I guess we just figured out why your shot was off its mark :chuckle:

And what was your excuse? ...Oh yeah that's right.  It was the $50 range finder.  At least that Hoyt missed her clean :chuckle:
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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2013, 06:39:27 PM »
Oh boy I'm really starting to question some of your equipment choices toxic now bowtech?  I guess we just figured out why your shot was off its mark :chuckle:

And what was your excuse? ...Oh yeah that's right.  It was the $50 range finder.  At least that Hoyt missed her clean :chuckle:
that's right never mine or the bows fault.  That hoyt doesn't miss very often. 

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2013, 06:46:11 PM »
:chuckle:

Saw that one coming

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2013, 06:47:59 PM »
I knew it was coming. 

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Re: after season toxic broadhead review.
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2013, 06:59:20 PM »
It's just too fun to pick on logo pushers.  I couldn't help myself with that carrot dangling and looking so tasty.
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