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Three Packs in Western Washington?
« on: December 18, 2013, 09:00:11 PM »
Saw something on the local news a week ago maybe more with regards to some wolf related meeting in seattle...they interviewed a wolf advocate who stated that there were "only 3 packs established in western Washington"....this was news to me, or is he maybe f.o.s.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 09:14:36 PM »
Either that, or eating liberals causes female wolves to miscarry....  :dunno:
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 09:28:14 PM »
Wouldn't break my heart.  Just that much closer to delisting.

Unfortunately, from the established side, not that the WDFW has formerly recognized as so.  But they cannot seem to recognize an established pack if it was holed up in the back yard of the Governor's abode.  :rolleyes:

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 01:17:30 PM »
We need to delist them, I survived a pissed off pack of wolves, nothing cute and cuddly about them.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 01:33:53 PM »
Tell the story  :dunno:
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 01:41:41 PM »
The story was on another thread...  Pretty scary.  I now pack two full mags with me. 
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 01:58:54 PM »
All kinds of things get said at those Seattle wolf meetings, sometimes they are even true.

Although it doesn't fit the narrative here, my impression is that most of those wildlife managers know that a lot of urban advocates - at least the ones who have always lived in a major metropolitan area, don't know crap about the wolf issue. They'll use their support when it suits them, but you can almost see the eye rolls when they get off stage. Wolves bring out oddballs that don't give a crap about any other wildlife/land management issues. Some group offers a Van Pool, a few snacks or maybe a beer then boom; they appear at a wolf meeting, utter a few talking points and that's that.

The guy that I was standing next to at the last wolf meeting was wearing a fake wolf tail and a hat with fake wolf ears, for goodness sake.



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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2013, 04:55:02 PM »
I think the "only three packs in western Washington"  bit is a reference to the REQUIREMENT for delisting in the WA Wolf Plan whether the person who said it realized it or not. She may have improperly memorized her talking points

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2013, 05:27:22 PM »
I think the "only three packs in western Washington"  bit is a reference to the REQUIREMENT for delisting in the WA Wolf Plan whether the person who said it realized it or not. She may have improperly memorized her talking points

You know after spending all night planning your gay wedding and then having nothing but a dooby for breakfast and lunch all those talking points are sort of hard to keep straight.
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2013, 09:02:50 PM »
I think the "only three packs in western Washington"  bit is a reference to the REQUIREMENT for delisting in the WA Wolf Plan whether the person who said it realized it or not. She may have improperly memorized her talking points

You know after spending all night planning your gay wedding and then having nothing but a dooby for breakfast and lunch all those talking points are sort of hard to keep straight.

Ok now that chit was funny! :)

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2013, 05:18:08 PM »
I talked to a game warden this past summer, who recently retired, he said that there are in fact a pack of wolves in kitsap county.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2013, 10:12:24 PM »
I talked to a game warden this past summer, who recently retired, he said that there are in fact a pack of wolves in kitsap county.
:dunno: :dunno: Let's hear the rest of this story. Kitsap county has a fair amount of people in it anymore. Outside of the watershed and some timber company land, I would suspect this would be tough to keep quiet. There are not that many deer and elk in the watershed from what I have heard over the last several years. With the timber company talking fees for access it would decrease the number of deer taken by hunting creating a longer lasting food source for them. This could get good when the pack gets hungry though.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2013, 11:11:20 PM »
I talked to a game warden this past summer, who recently retired, he said that there are in fact a pack of wolves in kitsap county.

Sure it wasn't Kittitas or Klickatat? Kittatas is known, but Klickatat would make sense compared to Kitsap.
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2013, 12:00:45 AM »
The story was on another thread...  Pretty scary.  I now pack two full mags with me.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2013, 10:17:06 AM »
I talked to a game warden this past summer, who recently retired, he said that there are in fact a pack of wolves in kitsap county.
:dunno: :dunno: Let's hear the rest of this story. Kitsap county has a fair amount of people in it anymore. Outside of the watershed and some timber company land, I would suspect this would be tough to keep quiet. There are not that many deer and elk in the watershed from what I have heard over the last several years. With the timber company talking fees for access it would decrease the number of deer taken by hunting creating a longer lasting food source for them. This could get good when the pack gets hungry though.

To be honest he didn't say a lot. One of my buddies who hunts Idaho a lot, and has seen wolves down there and knows what there tracks look like is a buddy with the guy (retired warden). I don't know the retired warden too well. Ive met him a few times...one day during the summer while on a job site My buddy and the warden came by to BS with me, they go coyote hunting every Wednesday out there, and he came across a track which was a wolf track. The warden said it was just a big coyote but my buddy knew differently. The warden tried to keep it a secret and eventually confessed to it. I believe my buddy. But the story is kind of fishy, but how I told it is how it was. There are plenty of deer out there, more than most think. Elk? Ive never heard of elk out there.
And im positive it was Kitsap.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2013, 05:59:35 AM »
We need to delist them, I survived a pissed off pack of wolves, nothing cute and cuddly about them.

Seriously. Was this in Washington. If so where and when? I don't remember reading anything about this.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2013, 06:09:23 AM »
There must be elk in Kitsap, it is an open unit for Muzzleloaders, 3 point or better. Certainly the state would not open a unit if there were no animals in it just to say "well your user group has 19 GMU's to chose from so quit complaining".....

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2013, 10:09:54 AM »
The story was on another thread...  Pretty scary.  I now pack two full mags with me.

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We need to delist them, I survived a pissed off pack of wolves, nothing cute and cuddly about them.

Seriously. Was this in Washington. If so where and when? I don't remember reading anything about this.
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2013, 06:43:52 PM »
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2013, 07:06:25 PM »
I think the "only three packs in western Washington"  bit is a reference to the REQUIREMENT for delisting in the WA Wolf Plan whether the person who said it realized it or not. She may have improperly memorized her talking points

You know after spending all night planning your gay wedding and then having nothing but a dooby for breakfast and lunch all those talking points are sort of hard to keep straight.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2013, 07:20:56 PM »
I think the "only three packs in western Washington"  bit is a reference to the REQUIREMENT for delisting in the WA Wolf Plan whether the person who said it realized it or not. She may have improperly memorized her talking points

You know after spending all night planning your gay wedding and then having nothing but a dooby for breakfast and lunch all those talking points are sort of hard to keep straight.
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2013, 07:25:43 PM »
Wouldn't break my heart.  Just that much closer to delisting.

Ive never understood the "logic" of those eager to reach the delisting threshold. :dunno:
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2013, 07:54:54 PM »
I talked to a game warden this past summer, who recently retired, he said that there are in fact a pack of wolves in kitsap county.
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #23 on: February 04, 2014, 09:42:20 PM »
The story was on another thread...  Pretty scary.  I now pack two full mags with me.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2014, 11:37:38 PM »
I wondered if any of the Duck Dynasty guys were on here, looks like Phil Robertson himself is, aka RadSav. :chuckle:

I don't know about that  >:(  But I do believe mountainman has called me a quack more than once  :chuckle:
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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2014, 07:37:52 AM »
I read an article last year on how they determine who will get what as far as wolf populations. The model they used was based on sheep density. They said in the article that Washington state has the lowest sheep density therfore they will get the highest number of breeding pairs. I think we should hire Gus Thorsen to visit. I personally know he can definately eradicate a whole pack in days. There has been a pack in the winston unit for years. You do not hear them talk much about them.

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Re: Three Packs in Western Washington?
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2014, 09:25:30 AM »
What did he use? Rozol?

 


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