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Re: Salmon, Idaho's 1st Annual Wolf & Coyote Derby, Dec 28-29
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2013, 10:21:45 PM »
I think they are turning a corner over there. They are done with this wolf crap and are implementing measures (slowly but steadily) to 'fix' the situation.
What?  Idaho has had a reasonable wolf plan for years...what do you mean they are just "turning a corner"?

What I meant is that Idaho is implementing, step by step, more and more successful methods of thinning the packs. 1st A hunting tag. Then trapping. Then multiple hunting tags. Then hired guns. Ect.

why is everyone so testy this time of year. Geez.  :rolleyes:
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Re: Salmon, Idaho's 1st Annual Wolf & Coyote Derby, Dec 28-29
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2013, 07:50:30 PM »
That would be cool if a few of you guys could go and bring back a couple wolves  :tup: :yeah: But please take a lot of ammo  :yike: :tup: :tup: :dunno: :chuckle:

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Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2013, 12:33:44 AM »
 :) :) :)

http://www.sfgate.com/news/science/article/Federal-judge-allows-Idaho-wolf-derby-on-FS-land-5096286.php

Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed

By JOHN MILLER, Associated Press
Updated 1:31 pm, Friday, December 27, 2013

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — A federal judge Friday allowed a wolf- and coyote-shooting derby to proceed on public land in Idaho this weekend, ruling its organizers aren't required to get a special permit from the U.S. Forest Service.

U.S. District Magistrate Judge Candy Wagahoff Dale issued the ruling in Boise hours after a morning hearing.

WildEarth Guardians and other environmental groups had sought to stop the derby, arguing the Forest Service was ignoring its own rules that require permits for competitive events.

The agency, meanwhile, countered no permit was needed, concluding while hunting would take place in the forest on Saturday and Sunday, the competitive portion of the event — where judges determine the $1,000 prize winner for the biggest wolf killed — would take place on private land.

Dale decided derby promoters were encouraging use of the forest for a lawful activity.

"The derby hunt is not like a foot race or ski race, where organizers would require the use of a loop or track for all participants to race upon," she wrote, of events that might require such permits. "Rather, hunters will be dispersed throughout the forest, hunting at their own pace and in their own preferred territory, and not in a prescribed location within a designated perimeter."

Steve Alder, an organizer of Idaho's derby, said dozens of people had already arrived in Salmon to participate. He was elated following the decision.

"We won," Alder said. "You've got a lot of people who have driven from far distances to Salmon, today. A lot of motels have a lot of occupants; a lot of money has been expended for this event. It's good for Salmon, but I don't want to send them packing home."
Every year, predator derbies are staged across the West and much of the rest of the country, where hunters compete to bag the most coyote, fox and other animals.

But wolves — and the notion that hundreds of armed sportsmen might head to the hills to shoot at them for cash — captured the passions of wildlife advocates on a landscape scale after they learned of the Idaho derby.

It's been just two years since Endangered Species Act protections were lifted, and WildEarth Guardians executive director John Hornung said many people believe the big carnivores still face existential threats that are compounded when they're hunted for prizes.

"To go from that position a mere two years ago, to contest hunts, is just incredibly dissonant to groups like ours, and I think, a lot of the public. It just doesn't make sense," Hornung said from his office in Santa Fe, N.M., adding he believes contest hunts are "all about a scorched earth approach to these native carnivores."

In Friday's telephone hearing, WildEarth Guardians' attorney told Dale that a wolf derby taking place on Forest Service land that surrounds Salmon should be required to get the same kind of special permit as any other competitive gathering, including running races or snowmobile events.

"People are trying to kill as many animals as they can in two days in order to win the prize," Sarah McMillan told the judge.
Meanwhile, attorneys for the U.S. Forest Service countered that no permit was needed.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Joshua Hurwit also said hunters could be in the woods and fields near Salmon this weekend shooting wolves and coyotes — regardless of whether their excursions were associated with a contest.

"There's nothing to stop people who intended to participate in the derby, from going forward and taking the same action, killing coyotes and wolves, and just not participating in the derby," Hurwit told Dale. "The derby doesn't change hunting, hunting will happen throughout the season regardless of this lawsuit. The derby hunters will have to comply with state regulations."

Wolves became big game animals in Idaho, Montana and Wyoming after federal Endangered Species Act protections were lifted starting in 2011. There are annual hunting and trapping seasons.

After reintroduction in the state in the mid-1990s, Idaho has about 680 wolves, according to 2012 estimates.
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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2013, 12:40:12 AM »
 :tup:
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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2013, 01:02:52 AM »
they start hunting tomorrow, wished I was there....  :drool:
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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2013, 01:09:43 AM »
I always miss the good hunts.
hey anybody got a towel, i just hit a waterbuffalo

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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2013, 03:48:15 AM »
hoorhaaa for the judge..

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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2013, 05:25:46 AM »
 :tup:
I am more excited about the judge than the hunt itself.   I am glad there is still some light out there.

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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2013, 06:11:41 AM »
 :tup:  I am proud of people who shoot wolves. 

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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2013, 06:11:52 AM »
Good for her!  I'm sure this is putting the bunny huggers in a uproar. :chuckle:
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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2013, 06:45:16 AM »
Great court decision. It's good to see that some courts still rule with common sense.
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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2013, 06:53:16 AM »
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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2013, 06:34:12 PM »
No wolves reported shot in early going of central Idaho hunting derby
 
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS December 28, 2013
 
BOISE, Idaho — Organizers of a wolf- and coyote-shooting derby in central Idaho say about 200 people signed up but only about 50 or 60 are hunters and the rest are just offering support for the event.
 
Steve Alder says no wolves had been reported shot late Saturday, the first day of the event that ends late Sunday afternoon.
 
He says one hunter's vehicle was vandalized with paint and scraping, and that authorities are investigating.
 
A federal judge Friday allowed the derby to proceed on public land after ruling its organizers aren't required to get a special permit from the U.S. Forest Service.
 
WildEarth Guardians and other environmental groups had sought to stop the derby, arguing the Forest Service was ignoring its own rules that require permits for competitive events.
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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2013, 06:41:19 PM »
 :tup: awesome a judge with sense. Hope they got a few today.

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Re: Federal judge allows Idaho wolf derby to proceed
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2013, 07:05:04 PM »
I personally think these derbies do more harm than good.  You can bet your bottom dollar that this derby will be a tremendous revenue generator for pro-wolf and anti-hunting groups.

Not to mention, the purpose of the education efforts from the event sponsors was for hydatid disease, which really is not a pressing issue in terms of wolf management.  They could at least focus on true conservation education and not try to perpetuate fear from a disease that is pretty much a non-factor in the human world.

The cost-benefit analysis is off the charts (to the wrong end) on this one.
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