Air rifle discussions

[Heredoggydoggy]

  Got my .22 cal. Benjamin Marauder air rifle yesterday, and got the scope mounted.  Wind was blowing too hard to sight it in yesterday, but I filled the tank, ran a cleaning patch down the bore, and this morning it still held air!    Later that afternoon, UPS tried to deliver the .177 rifle I sent back to Crosman because the air tank was leaking down.  They needed a signature to leave it, and I wasn't home at the time.  I didn't know it was coming, or I would have stayed home.  Anyway, by this afternoon I'll have both of my pellet guns here to kill Starlings and Eurasian Doves with!   

[mossy8352]

Clear something up for me. If you can use a hand tire pump to fill the gun why not a compressor with a line regulator? I understand wanting a refill in the field with a tank. Thanks Mike

[Fl0und3rz]

Clear something up for me. If you can use a hand tire pump to fill the gun why not a compressor with a line regulator? I understand wanting a refill in the field with a tank. Thanks Mike

It is not a regular tire pump; it only looks like one from the outside.

[Heredoggydoggy]

Clear something up for me. If you can use a hand tire pump to fill the gun why not a compressor with a line regulator? I understand wanting a refill in the field with a tank. Thanks Mike

I get asked this all the time.  I have an air compressor, but it only goes to 110 psi.  That's not enough to even move the gage on the gun.  The gun operates at 1,000 to 2500 psi.  It takes a big expensive air compressor to fill a SCUBA tank, and I can get a lot of air fills at the SCUBA shop for a lot less than a compressor would cost.  The tire-type pump is a lot bigger than a standard tire pump, but even then, it's hard work to fill a gun to 3,000 psi.  I've found that the SCUBA tank is the only way to go to fill the gun.  And you can get a lot of gun fills out of an 80 or 90 cubic foot air tank.... 

[mossy8352]

Clear something up for me. If you can use a hand tire pump to fill the gun why not a compressor with a line regulator? I understand wanting a refill in the field with a tank. Thanks Mike

I get asked this all the time.  I have an air compressor, but it only goes to 110 psi.  That's not enough to even move the gage on the gun.  The gun operates at 1,000 to 2500 psi.  It takes a big expensive air compressor to fill a SCUBA tank, and I can get a lot of air fills at the SCUBA shop for a lot less than a compressor would cost.  The tire-type pump is a lot bigger than a standard tire pump, but even then, it's hard work to fill a gun to 3,000 psi.  I've found that the SCUBA tank is the only way to go to fill the gun.  And you can get a lot of gun fills out of an 80 or 90 cubic foot air tank.... 

Thant makes more sense thanks.
Mike

[Heredoggydoggy]

Just got done dialing in the scopes on my airguns.  I had the scope mounted on my new .22 cal. Benjamin Marauder, and last night I mounted the scope on my .177 Marauder that I got back from Crosman.  While I had the bench and targets up, I checked the zero on my other 2 airguns.  The accuracy of these guns is incredible.  If you are worried about airguns not being accurate, rest assured that they are, within their capabilities of course.  They are by no means as powerful or long-ranging as a centerfire rifle, or even a rimfire rifle, but with a shrouded barrel, they are perfect for pest control in urban areas.  I dusted a Eurasian Dove this morning with my .177 Benjamin Discovery.  That unshrouded barrel is loud, but it was all that was handy at the time.  He flew off in a cloud of feathers, but he probably won't be back! 

[Bookworm007]

I have a german Weihrauch HW35, It can lob a .177 pellet at 1100 fps and came with a proper air gun scope and peep sights. The thing is as accurate as you could want, but I am still trying to find its favorite ammo.

[Heredoggydoggy]

I have a german Weihrauch HW35, It can lob a .177 pellet at 1100 fps and came with a proper air gun scope and peep sights. The thing is as accurate as you could want, but I am still trying to find its favorite ammo.

Last Saturday I was talking to a benchrest target shooter who is using his pellet gun for target shooting, and he told me that he bought a tin of those Crosman pellets, and they are crap!  He and the rest of the target pellet gun shooters use the H & N and JSB pellets, and have ordered some pellets with varying head sizes to try.  I have found that the flat-nosed "wadcutter" target pellets give the best accuracy, but I just go for "minute of Starling" accuracy.   

[Bookworm007]

I have a german Weihrauch HW35, It can lob a .177 pellet at 1100 fps and came with a proper air gun scope and peep sights. The thing is as accurate as you could want, but I am still trying to find its favorite ammo.

Last Saturday I was talking to a benchrest target shooter who is using his pellet gun for target shooting, and he told me that he bought a tin of those Crosman pellets, and they are crap!  He and the rest of the target pellet gun shooters use the H & N and JSB pellets, and have ordered some pellets with varying head sizes to try.  I have found that the flat-nosed "wadcutter" target pellets give the best accuracy, but I just go for "minute of Starling" accuracy. 

I have been meaning to order one of these

http://www.straightshooters.com/straight-shooters-full-pellet-sampler-.177.html

They have a ton of different pellets from various manufacturers so you can narrow in on the best pellet for you gun.

[Roundhead]

I have a german Weihrauch HW35, It can lob a .177 pellet at 1100 fps and came with a proper air gun scope and peep sights. The thing is as accurate as you could want, but I am still trying to find its favorite ammo.

Last Saturday I was talking to a benchrest target shooter who is using his pellet gun for target shooting, and he told me that he bought a tin of those Crosman pellets, and they are crap!  He and the rest of the target pellet gun shooters use the H & N and JSB pellets, and have ordered some pellets with varying head sizes to try.  I have found that the flat-nosed "wadcutter" target pellets give the best accuracy, but I just go for "minute of Starling" accuracy. 

Can you provide more details about your new scope and the pellets?

[Heredoggydoggy]

I have a german Weihrauch HW35, It can lob a .177 pellet at 1100 fps and came with a proper air gun scope and peep sights. The thing is as accurate as you could want, but I am still trying to find its favorite ammo.

Last Saturday I was talking to a benchrest target shooter who is using his pellet gun for target shooting, and he told me that he bought a tin of those Crosman pellets, and they are crap!  He and the rest of the target pellet gun shooters use the H & N and JSB pellets, and have ordered some pellets with varying head sizes to try.  I have found that the flat-nosed "wadcutter" target pellets give the best accuracy, but I just go for "minute of Starling" accuracy. 

Can you provide more details about your new scope and the pellets?

My scopes are Barska 3-12x40mm Airgun scopes.  They are very inexpensive, and seem to be very good for the money.  They are parallax adjustable down to less than 10 yards.  Ideal for an air rifle or even my .22 cal. Benjamin Marauder air pistol.  I use H&N pellets, usually the Domed Kodiak Beeman pellets in the .22s and the Baracuda Hunter Extreme and Field Target Trophy pellets in .177.  The 9.57 grain Hunter Extreme and the Benjamin 10.5 grain hollow point pellets that I got with my Discovery PCP air rifle seem to give good accuracy.  I'm still experimenting with the pellets to see what gives the best accuracy, but I got a Eurasian Dove with a H&N Baracuda Hunter Extreme pellet this morning, so I can verify their accuracy.  It was an over 60 yard shot. 

[Mtn.Ghost]

Here is a pic of my new 2400KT from the Crosman Custom Shop. I ordered it in .22 cal. with the steel breech and 24" barrel with a silver muzzle brake and trigger shoe along with the custom camo stock. All I have to do now is mount my optics.

I finally got a chance to get serious about zeroing my neat little riffle. I have owned many standard model Crosman airguns as well as Daisy guns over the years. I must say that I got way more than I expected as far as performance in this Crosman Custom Shop 2400kt.

This little baby is a straight up sniper riffle It is also very good on gas, I get about 45 dead accurate shots at 40 yards and about 30 more dead on shots to 30+ yards from one single 9 gram Co2 cartridge.

Here are some pics. of my backyard fun all the little white squares are 1-1/2" x 1-1/2"
I zeroed 1" high at 20 yards holding the horizontal cross hair at the bottom of the paper.

This zero setting allows me to hold dead center at 40 yards and I'm very impressed with the accuracy at this distance and can't wait to see how much further I can push it tomorrow

Sorry the pics need to rotate 90 deg. to the right.

Pic. 1 is the gun prior to scope being mounted.

Pic. 2 is 20 yard zero holding at the bottom of the paper.

Pic. 3 and 4 are 40 yard zero holding dead on.

I know I can get these groups tighter, I was shooting from a standing rest position  

[Heredoggydoggy]

Wow--I hate to admit this, but your offhand groups are better than my benchrest groups!  Air rifle barrels take some "break in" shots, so it should get better as you shoot it more.  Those pellets imbedded in the board look like the 22 pellets in my fence boards--after they blew through the target and a piece of 1/2" plywood! (at about 30 yards.) 

Try a bunch of pellets to see what your gun likes.  A target shooter friend told me that he and his buddies got some pellets that had bigger head diameters so they fit the bore tighter, and accuracy improved a lot.  (it was already good!)  I think he said they ordered the pellets from "Airgun Depot".  Most pellets say they are 5.5mm in diameter.  I have a tin of pellets that say they are 5.56mm but I haven't tried them yet.  The Starlings and Eurasian Doves already hate my 5.5mm pellets! 

[DRENALINJUNKIE]

Thought I would bring this discussion back up!
I just ordered a Walther denominator 1250. Should be here next week. 

[Fl0und3rz]

Picked one of these up late last year.

http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosman_2300S/928

They are pretty much as advertized and reviewed.

It makes for nice cheap (after the entry fee) and convenient practice in suburbia.