Bowhunter chased up tree by wolves in GMU 121!

[bearpaw]

I started this topic about a friend who was nearly attacked by wolves!

Somehow it was high jacked by members "who appear to be wolf lovers" who are trying to spread their propaganda that wolves do not impact herds. These same "members" have implied my friend is a coward for climbing the tree in fear for his life. I tried to get this on track a ways back but they wouldn't let it get back on track, so here we are, they deserve every comment that's been made. 

[pianoman9701]

Common denominator? That would be issues that nobody is going to have their mind changed on. It is what it is. Stop with the labels and the name calling. 


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OK, go with that.

[KFhunter]

It is my opinion that your friend was challenged by the wolves. 

Being challenged is different then the act of prey testing,  if the wolves remained silent yet continued to circle the tree then I'd crap my pants, because then it's real!

but that the wolves were howling while circling it tells me they were trying to drive your friend from the area, which can also be very dangerous to him.


I pack each and every time I enter the woods, and I can tell you that in foggy conditions or thick brush I would also climb a tree to access the situation.

[pianoman9701]

I started this topic about a friend who was nearly attacked by wolves!

Somehow it was high jacked by members "who appear to be wolf lovers" who are trying to spread their propaganda that wolves do not impact herds. These same "members" have implied my friend is a coward for climbing the tree in fear for his life. I tried to get this on track a ways back but they wouldn't let it get back on track, so here we are, they deserve every comment that's been made. 

I believe your friend's account. Whether or not your friend was actually being attacked is a moot point. The wolves in WA are bold and have been killing. I believe that it's a matter of time before they kill a person if we don't put some fear in them first.

[bearpaw]

It is my opinion that your friend was challenged by the wolves. 

Being challenged is different then the act of prey testing,  if the wolves remained silent yet continued to circle the tree then I'd crap my pants, because then it's real!

but that the wolves were howling while circling it tells me they were trying to drive your friend from the area, which can also be very dangerous to him.


I pack each and every time I enter the woods, and I can tell you that in foggy conditions or thick brush I would also climb a tree to access the situation.

He was packing, but he didn't want a confrontation that would get him in trouble with the law and it did scare the dickens out of him when he realized the wolves were howling all around him and advancing closer.

I started this topic about a friend who was nearly attacked by wolves!

Somehow it was high jacked by members "who appear to be wolf lovers" who are trying to spread their propaganda that wolves do not impact herds. These same "members" have implied my friend is a coward for climbing the tree in fear for his life. I tried to get this on track a ways back but they wouldn't let it get back on track, so here we are, they deserve every comment that's been made. 

I believe your friend's account. Whether or not your friend was actually being attacked is a moot point. The wolves in WA are bold and have been killing. I believe that it's a matter of time before they kill a person if we don't put some fear in them first.

I agree with your comments piano and that is the point I was trying to make from the beginning, that we need to realize these confrontations are happening and something needs done so that wolves fear man.

[Curly]

I agree with pianoman. 

Wolves should not be protected in the NE corner.  (Actually, I don't want them protected anywhere in WA).  They should be treated like coyotes. 

But I also like hearing other opinions from other sportsmen that may have a different view.  And I don't think they should be labeled as wolf lovers for having a little different view. 

Humanure was the definition of a wolf lover and he deserved any crap dished out toward him.  I don't think the same is deserved toward some other members of this forum that have other views toward the wolf topic.

Like Bob33 pointed out, other members may not give their  if they think they will be labeled as wolf lovers.

[bearpaw]

Curly you are probably right, but of course the reverse is true, just because I think wolves need managed better does not make me someone who wants them wiped off the face of the earth as some of these guys have insinuated. 

[bobcat]

Well some of you are very good with words and justifying the great disrespect you have shown for a few of the very best members we have on this forum.

Congratulations!   

Now carry on.   

[Curly]

Curly you are probably right, but of course the reverse is true, just because I think wolves need managed better does not make me someone who wants them wiped off the face of the earth as some of these guys have insinuated. 

I've read a lot of posts, probably missed a lot too, but I don't get the impression from anyone that they think you want to wipe out the wolves.     

[idahohuntr]

This is getting to the point of absurdity that I wonder why I even respond.  I hunt as much (if not more) than many on this site.  I have hunted all my life.  I am fortunate that I hunt multiple states every year...and I don't take it for granted.  Yes, I serve on the GMAC (like many other folks on this site).  I also volunteer significant time to RMEF (like others on this site who volunteer to many conservation organizations).  I am a former recipient of a Wildlife Leadership Award from RMEF.  I taught hunter and bowhunter ed in Idaho for 10+ years.  I have posts with pictures of deer and elk I have killed for petes sake.  So, while I agree just because somebody posts on the internet that they are this or that does not mean it is true...but for heavens sake...what more do you people need??  So, go ahead and ban me if you think im pulling off this elaborate scheme to portray myself as a hunter.  I have my views of how wildlife should be managed for the publics benefit and I share those opinions and discuss them with other hunters.  In the end though, these wildlife issues are not about me or any one person and it is a sad state of affairs that time is wasted on whether a particular person "hunts enough" or whatever to be allowed to share a view.  Focus on the issues and forget about the individuals.     

[pianoman9701]

I don't think anyone was talking about banning you, IDhntr

[KFhunter]

This is getting to the point of absurdity that I wonder why I even respond.  I hunt as much (if not more) than many on this site.  I have hunted all my life.  I am fortunate that I hunt multiple states every year...and I don't take it for granted.  Yes, I serve on the GMAC (like many other folks on this site).  I also volunteer significant time to RMEF (like others on this site who volunteer to many conservation organizations).  I am a former recipient of a Wildlife Leadership Award from RMEF.  I taught hunter and bowhunter ed in Idaho for 10+ years.  I have posts with pictures of deer and elk I have killed for petes sake.  So, while I agree just because somebody posts on the internet that they are this or that does not mean it is true...but for heavens sake...what more do you people need??  So, go ahead and ban me if you think im pulling off this elaborate scheme to portray myself as a hunter.  I have my views of how wildlife should be managed for the publics benefit and I share those opinions and discuss them with other hunters.  In the end though, these wildlife issues are not about me or any one person and it is a sad state of affairs that time is wasted on whether a particular person "hunts enough" or whatever to be allowed to share a view.  Focus on the issues and forget about the individuals.     

Well said Idahohntr 

With that I'll apologize for calling you a farce.   I also thank you for your effort and previous accomplishments.



Now, if you'll just listen...

[KFhunter]

I agree with pianoman. 

Wolves should not be protected in the NE corner.  (Actually, I don't want them protected anywhere in WA).  They should be treated like coyotes. 

Even if wolves were treated like Coyotes and shot 24/7 365 the population of wolves would not be significantly reduced.

Remember when WDFW said they killed the wedge wolf pack? 
I submitted proof just a few months later that that wasn't the case. 
WDFW has since changed their wording for those who caught it.   Now the official statement reads something like  "WDFW has removed "some" of the wedge wolf pack." 

It took WDFW a radio collar and helicopter to get the few wolves they did get,  the hunters they hired were unsuccessful even with a radio collar tracker at their disposal.

[Curly]

Exactly.  That's why treating them like coyotes is what should happen.  It might help to make them more wary of humans, but it won't hurt their population.

I'm not sure the so called "wolf lovers" on this site disagree with delisting wolves and opening a hunting season on them in this state. 

[buckfvr]

Exactly.  That's why treating them like coyotes is what should happen.  It might help to make them more wary of humans, but it won't hurt their population.

I'm not sure the so called "wolf lovers" on this site disagree with delisting wolves and opening a hunting season on them in this state. 

If we treat them like coyotes, their population will explode !!!!!!!