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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2014, 03:30:18 PM »
One thing that you might consider if you plan to get another dog someday, is you may want a transmitter that can transmit to 2 separate collars.  Just a thought......if you get another dog then you can get another collar that will work with your transmitter so you only need one transmitter for both collars on your dogs. :twocents:

That's what I did, though with three now I wish I had a three dog unit. If you figure in a 5 year rotation for a new dog having three at once in the house is not too unlikely.

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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2014, 03:37:58 PM »
There is no fixing or repairing/returning of ANYTHING except PRO series collars.

The Einstein Collars just came out recently. Got an email mine is shipping today so, I should be able to start using it training when I get back from a business trip to CA next week. Stay tuned..

Where are you hearing that? I just got off the phone with them and we actually talked about this very subject. they are supporting ALL G3 devices like classic 70, trashbreaker, EXP ect. they are just not supporting any G2 models


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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2014, 04:07:44 PM »
There is no fixing or repairing/returning of ANYTHING except PRO series collars.

The Einstein Collars just came out recently. Got an email mine is shipping today so, I should be able to start using it training when I get back from a business trip to CA next week. Stay tuned..

Where are you hearing that? I just got off the phone with them and we actually talked about this very subject. they are supporting ALL G3 devices like classic 70, trashbreaker, EXP ect. they are just not supporting any G2 models

Classic 70, Pro 100 and Pro 500 are considered "Pro" series. All of the Sport models and G2 line, flyway etc are toast. Did you call TT or Collar Clinic?

Classic 70, The Pro 100 series is also on the chopping block. Soon all that you can buy will be the Pro 550 or Garmin labeled products. EXP is not a transmitter series- EXP simply means expandable. So, your Pro 500 can work 3 dogs. Collars(receiver) must be EXP to work with EXP transmitters.
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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2014, 04:13:21 PM »
There is no fixing or repairing/returning of ANYTHING except PRO series collars.

The Einstein Collars just came out recently. Got an email mine is shipping today so, I should be able to start using it training when I get back from a business trip to CA next week. Stay tuned..

Where are you hearing that? I just got off the phone with them and we actually talked about this very subject. they are supporting ALL G3 devices like classic 70, trashbreaker, EXP ect. they are just not supporting any G2 models

Classic 70, Pro 100 and Pro 500 are considered "Pro" series. All of the Sport models and G2 line, flyway etc are toast. Did you call TT or Collar Clinic?

Classic 70, The Pro 100 series is also on the chopping block. Soon all that you can buy will be the Pro 550 or Garmin labeled products. EXP is not a transmitter series- EXP simply means expandable. So, your Pro 500 can work 3 dogs. Collars(receiver) must be EXP to work with EXP transmitters.

Happy, I'm not doubting you. But if you can provide some documentation from Garmin saying as much it would be helpful.

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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2014, 04:26:52 PM »
There is no fixing or repairing/returning of ANYTHING except PRO series collars.

The Einstein Collars just came out recently. Got an email mine is shipping today so, I should be able to start using it training when I get back from a business trip to CA next week. Stay tuned..

Where are you hearing that? I just got off the phone with them and we actually talked about this very subject. they are supporting ALL G3 devices like classic 70, trashbreaker, EXP ect. they are just not supporting any G2 models

Classic 70, Pro 100 and Pro 500 are considered "Pro" series. All of the Sport models and G2 line, flyway etc are toast. Did you call TT or Collar Clinic?

Classic 70, The Pro 100 series is also on the chopping block. Soon all that you can buy will be the Pro 550 or Garmin labeled products. EXP is not a transmitter series- EXP simply means expandable. So, your Pro 500 can work 3 dogs. Collars(receiver) must be EXP to work with EXP transmitters.

actually the "Pro Series" is the 100 200 and 500, the classic 70, trashbreaker, field 90, flyway, and upland special are in the "Field Series"

i know the sport series are discontinued, that have been for sometime.

the info im providing is directly from my Garmin/TT dealer rep.


also commando, for 300-400 a classic 70  would be a great solid unit that will do everything you want and plenty expandable for more dogs. i have experimented with almost every popular brand including Einsteins (e-collar technologies) and i keep going back to TT.
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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2014, 12:52:15 AM »
There is no fixing or repairing/returning of ANYTHING except PRO series collars.

The Einstein Collars just came out recently. Got an email mine is shipping today so, I should be able to start using it training when I get back from a business trip to CA next week. Stay tuned..

Where are you hearing that? I just got off the phone with them and we actually talked about this very subject. they are supporting ALL G3 devices like classic 70, trashbreaker, EXP ect. they are just not supporting any G2 models

Classic 70, Pro 100 and Pro 500 are considered "Pro" series. All of the Sport models and G2 line, flyway etc are toast. Did you call TT or Collar Clinic?

Classic 70, The Pro 100 series is also on the chopping block. Soon all that you can buy will be the Pro 550 or Garmin labeled products. EXP is not a transmitter series- EXP simply means expandable. So, your Pro 500 can work 3 dogs. Collars(receiver) must be EXP to work with EXP transmitters.

actually the "Pro Series" is the 100 200 and 500, the classic 70, trashbreaker, field 90, flyway, and upland special are in the "Field Series"

i know the sport series are discontinued, that have been for sometime.

the info im providing is directly from my Garmin/TT dealer rep.


also commando, for 300-400 a classic 70  would be a great solid unit that will do everything you want and plenty expandable for more dogs. i have experimented with almost every popular brand including Einsteins (e-collar technologies) and i keep going back to TT.

What is the reps name and when was the last time you talked to them? Where did you get an Einstein? Just curious. I don't believe they are available in any stores? Did you field test one from the factory?
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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2014, 07:24:00 AM »
Had my Dogtra for about 5 years and could not be happier. Love the variation in stimulation  for th he different dogs. Beeper function is great but I would rather have vibrate in a perfect world. Long battery life and quick charge.

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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2014, 08:08:46 AM »
E collar technologies actually had to change the Einstein name to Educator from here on out due to them losing a legal case for the trade mark name.

these systems have been out for awhile now and multiple companies sell them. we tried them out a good while ago and had about 15-20 of them out with one of our professional trainers and his clients, the return rate was higher than we liked. The problems they were having were battery failures and charging failure. Other than that they were slick little rigs but when you have someone buys 3-5 a month and half of them come back it becomes a problem.

ever since the sport series was discontinued we have been trying alot of entry level systems. its been a headache finding an entry level system that meets our standards in reliability and company product support.right now the most reliable entry/mid level system we have found is the Dogtra 300M
Dogtra 300M
 
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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2014, 08:40:38 AM »
E collar technologies actually had to change the Einstein name to Educator from here on out due to them losing a legal case for the trade mark name.

these systems have been out for awhile now and multiple companies sell them. we tried them out a good while ago and had about 15-20 of them out with one of our professional trainers and his clients, the return rate was higher than we liked. The problems they were having were battery failures and charging failure. Other than that they were slick little rigs but when you have someone buys 3-5 a month and half of them come back it becomes a problem.

ever since the sport series was discontinued we have been trying alot of entry level systems. its been a headache finding an entry level system that meets our standards in reliability and company product support.right now the most reliable entry/mid level system we have found is the Dogtra 300M
Dogtra 300M

I've never used the 300m but I did own a 280 NCP from Dogtra for a while. Like my 3502 it was solid. I only got rid of it when I needed a two dog unit.

Any thoughts on the Garmin Delta since that's supposed to be the TT Sport series replacement?

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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2014, 08:56:16 AM »
E collar technologies actually had to change the Einstein name to Educator from here on out due to them losing a legal case for the trade mark name.

these systems have been out for awhile now and multiple companies sell them. we tried them out a good while ago and had about 15-20 of them out with one of our professional trainers and his clients, the return rate was higher than we liked. The problems they were having were battery failures and charging failure. Other than that they were slick little rigs but when you have someone buys 3-5 a month and half of them come back it becomes a problem.

ever since the sport series was discontinued we have been trying alot of entry level systems. its been a headache finding an entry level system that meets our standards in reliability and company product support.right now the most reliable entry/mid level system we have found is the Dogtra 300M
Dogtra 300M

I've never used the 300m but I did own a 280 NCP from Dogtra for a while. Like my 3502 it was solid. I only got rid of it when I needed a two dog unit.

Any thoughts on the Garmin Delta since that's supposed to be the TT Sport series replacement?

the garmin delta and delta sport are awesome, i love them EXCEPT for one thing, the prongs are non adjustable. if they come out with adjustable prongs i will be using this system for around the house and for my retrievers.

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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2014, 07:25:54 PM »
Wild, I've never seen a pro nor any dog person or client around use them or have one. I'm around dog people and dogs 365 days a year. :)

Right now my #1 recommendation would be to buy a Pro 100 series. Second the Dogtra NC.

I don't think I'd buy a Garmin collar or recommend one until they've been proven. My friend who outfits boats said the Garmin Marine line of products is something to avoid. He said they do make a lot of money replacing Garmin Marine products so he likes Garmin for his business flow.

I've had the Upland G2 EXP system for about 4 years now. I REALLY, REALLY wish I'd had skipped a "good" deal on it and bought the PRO 500. It has been flawless however, no more service available for the transmitter. If it breaks, you get a discount on a G3 so you must step up.

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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2014, 06:10:09 AM »
Thanks again for all the help guys. I've decided to go with the dogtra 3500.

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Re: options of good ecollar?
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2014, 09:32:23 PM »
Thanks again for all the help guys. I've decided to go with the dogtra 3500.

That's a great collar you won't be disappointed.
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