Kapowsin deer season wrap up.

[woodman]

On opening day of late rifle deer I got mine, and I know of four others taken within a mile.  I got mine within 100 yards of where I got last years buck.  If I were to give advice it would be to find the good cuts with timber nearby and glass.  Don't get impatient.

That's great Crunchy! Did you post it here? I love seeing those Hancock bucks.

[BigCutty3]

I think deer numbers are fair but decreasing compared to prior years, I have been hunting it for seven years or so.  Early rifle was tough due to conditions, and we saw some bucks but they wouldnt give us the time to get it done.  My son ended up filling his youth doe tag towards the end of the season.  Late season was over quick for me with a nice 4 point.  General observations of more elk than ever, more predators, and seems like more hunting pressure in general.  We went in coyote hunting a couple weekends ago and I was shocked by the number of guys and traffic on the roads for so late in the season; multi season permits perhaps?  Walked some of our normal areas and minimal rub activity compared to past years.

[Crunchy]

This years

[Crunchy]

Last years 4pt broken off on one side.

[woodman]

This years

Very nice Crunchy, I helped Rasbo drag out one of his that was similar to first on that you posted.

[rasbo]

my last deer hunt in there,woodman and Bruce helping,it was a mile or so in..deep dark woods rattled in to 12 to 15 feet,he was on old  bugger...talking about the deer,lol

[Skyvalhunter]

Yea he is an old looking bugger!! The deer too..

[grundy53]

Yea he is an old looking bugger!! The deer too..

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[trophyhunt]

I will be calling Hancock in the morning, someone is driving in the gated areas.  I know it's a tree farm and people work in there but it seems to me they should stay out of the wildlife escapement areas during hunting seasons.  Sucks to walk in 5 miles in a gated area and see tire tracks in the late rifle and in the snow for late muzzy, bs.

Huh? Really? You're going to complain to the land owners about a worker driving in to do his job? Seriously? Maybe they should just close it to all hunting.

update, seems the guys that have been driving behind the locked, habitat area are with manke which own a small piece of property behind the gate. Hancock is supposed to address this issue at a meeting in a few days w the prop owners, they did not know they were driving in the area.  Makes me wonder if they are hunting elk in there also?  Sucks that I've been hiking in a walk in area when guys have been driving the whole time.

[Alan K]

Manke has easement to their property, and unless they have some agreement with Hancock can hunt elk on their own property.  They own a half dozen or so sections within the farm.

[trophyhunt]

I really don't have a problem w them hunting on their property , but walk in like the rest of us.

[Alan K]

Their easement is I'm sure for motorized access to their property (which it sounds like is through a gated area in your case).  That's completely within their rights. If their hunting Hancock's land in a walk in area from a vehicle, that would be grounds for some sort of repercussion.  Maybe that's what the meeting is about? 

[trophyhunt]

Their easement is I'm sure for motorized access to their property (which it sounds like is through a gated area in your case).  That's completely within their rights. If their hunting Hancock's land in a walk in area from a vehicle, that would be grounds for some sort of repercussion.  Maybe that's what the meeting is about? 

yes, from what I gathered that will be discussed.

[hunterrcc]

Very little deer way way way too much pressure.  Not enough elk tags in my opinion for the amount of old mature bulls.  I say at least 5 tags for each weapon would be fine that way people would have a better chance to draw for the increased number of permits and cost of permits.
also
Just because Someone owns land in there that is not Hancocks and drives into their property with a legal easement doesn't mean you have a right to complain to Hancock that and tell them they have to walk like you.  They own the property they can do as they please and drive all over their own property.  My suggestion would be to offer to buy the piece of property and then you can drive yourself in behind the gate too.  If not quit bitching about someone that hunts their privately owned property because $350 you spend to walk in there is nothing compared to the thousands actually millions to drive to your piece of ground.  Maybe you are trespassing onto there property up there since no one has permission to be on their ground up there... And I have seen plenty of rigs parked hunting their properties on the South Side of the river.  So I don't think you need to be getting mad at the only timber company that is not charging you to hunt their other properties around the area!

[trophyhunt]

Very little deer way way way too much pressure.  Not enough elk tags in my opinion for the amount of old mature bulls.  I say at least 5 tags for each weapon would be fine that way people would have a better chance to draw for the increased number of permits and cost of permits.
also
Just because Someone owns land in there that is not Hancocks and drives into their property with a legal easement doesn't mean you have a right to complain to Hancock that and tell them they have to walk like you.  They own the property they can do as they please and drive all over their own property.  My suggestion would be to offer to buy the piece of property and then you can drive yourself in behind the gate too.  If not quit bitching about someone that hunts their privately owned property because $350 you spend to walk in there is nothing compared to the thousands actually millions to drive to your piece of ground.  Maybe you are trespassing onto there property up there since no one has permission to be on their ground up there... And I have seen plenty of rigs parked hunting their properties on the South Side of the river.  So I don't think you need to be getting mad at the only timber company that is not charging you to hunt their other properties around the area!

if manke doesn't want to agree to the wildlife enhancement area and continue to drive behind locked gates, then I think Hancock should open the gates for all of us.  They can find a different area to lock up that doesn't have any manke or other property owners accesses.  I'm not trying to take any property rights away from owners,  they can lock up their property.  That area shouldn't be advertised as a wildlife enhancement area if its not. 

Also, I looked at the property map and the manke guys are driving in area that is not near their property.  They are not supposed to be driving on Hancock land unless accessing their property.