HB 2199 Complimentary Discover Pass to Those Who Spend over $200

[snowpack]

Okay, I'm going to be selfish now and change my vote to a yes. I added up all the stuff I can buy-

Deer/Elk/Bear/Cougar w/small game $117.50
3 Quality applications   3x13.70=$41.10
4 "regular" applications 4x7.10=28.40
Turkey tag   $15.90

Total:   $202.90



Whew! Just barely made the $200!  Sure, I'll take the free Discover pass!   

I think the only special apps available now are multi season and spring bear.  You have to wait about a month after the 2013 license expires to get those other special permit apps.  So, if you want to shoot coyotes until then you have to get at least the small game license which drops you below the $200.  I guess you could get a fishing/shellfish license to make up the difference.  Or buy even more special permit apps.

[Bob33]

They could make up the lost revenue by increasing the Discover Pass cost for Subarus to $50. Having a "Hope and Change" sticker on it adds another $25.

[bobcat]

Okay, I'm going to be selfish now and change my vote to a yes. I added up all the stuff I can buy-

Deer/Elk/Bear/Cougar w/small game $117.50
3 Quality applications   3x13.70=$41.10
4 "regular" applications 4x7.10=28.40
Turkey tag   $15.90

Total:   $202.90



Whew! Just barely made the $200!  Sure, I'll take the free Discover pass!   

I think the only special apps available now are multi season and spring bear.  You have to wait about a month after the 2013 license expires to get those other special permit apps.  So, if you want to shoot coyotes until then you have to get at least the small game license which drops you below the $200.  I guess you could get a fishing/shellfish license to make up the difference.  Or buy even more special permit apps.

No, I'm not counting spring bear and multi season apps. I would buy those separate.

[blackdog]

To be clear the Agencies DFW,Parks and DNR are going to kill this bill, so for the opponents of this legislation don't be to concerned that it may pass.

[bobcat]

They could make up the lost revenue by increasing the Discover Pass cost for Subarus to $50. Having a "Hope and Change" sticker on it adds another $25.

    I just bought a Subaru.   

[fair-chase]

Okay, I'm going to be selfish now and change my vote to a yes. I added up all the stuff I can buy-

Deer/Elk/Bear/Cougar w/small game $117.50
3 Quality applications   3x13.70=$41.10
4 "regular" applications 4x7.10=28.40
Turkey tag   $15.90

Total:   $202.90



Whew! Just barely made the $200!  Sure, I'll take the free Discover pass!   

I think the only special apps available now are multi season and spring bear.  You have to wait about a month after the 2013 license expires to get those other special permit apps.  So, if you want to shoot coyotes until then you have to get at least the small game license which drops you below the $200.  I guess you could get a fishing/shellfish license to make up the difference.  Or buy even more special permit apps.

No, I'm not counting spring bear and multi season apps. I would buy those separate.

How 'bout we stop adding up the cost of resident hunting in WA. It's just gets too depressing. 

[huntnphool]

Okay, I'm going to be selfish now and change my vote to a yes. I added up all the stuff I can buy-

Deer/Elk/Bear/Cougar w/small game $117.50
3 Quality applications   3 x 13.70=$41.10
4 "regular" applications 4 x 7.10=28.40
Turkey tag   $15.90

Total:   $202.90



Whew! Just barely made the $200!  Sure, I'll take the free Discover pass!   

Dont forget your multi season permit

[stuckalot]

I say no for several reasons:

1.  DP Is junk legislation to begin with
2.  If you want to fund state parks via user fee do it! Leave DNR & WDFW out of it!
3.  This idea is nothing more than divide and conquer. Placate enough people with exemptions, waivers, discounts etc. that those left paying full price are now in conflict with those "subsidized" users. See also Obamacare! This whole idea needs to go down in flames!
4. Obviously all the DP does for WDFW is create a bigger bureaucracy! i.e. If you create two new positions with DP funds you must thru accounting gimmick or practice spend like amount on DP enforcement! Only a government bureaucrat could fail to find fault with logic like that! Let alone think its a GOOD idea!

[724wd]

dirty dash at riverside state park in spokane?  NO DISCOVER PASS NEEDED!   

[Elkaholic daWg]

10 ((The))(2)(a) A vehicle access pass is only available to a person
11 who purchases a current valid: Big game hunting license issued under
12 RCW 77.32.450; small game hunting license issued under RCW 77.32.460;
13 western Washington pheasant permit issued under RCW 77.32.575; trapping
14 license issued under RCW 77.65.450; watchable wildlife decal issued
15 under RCW 77.32.560; or combination, saltwater, or freshwater personal
16 use fishing license issued under RCW 77.32.470.
17 (((2)))(b) One vehicle access pass must be issued per purchase
18 pursuant to this subsection (((1) of this section))

unless a purchaser
19 qualifies for a discover pass under (c) of this subsection.
1 (c) One discover pass must be issued at no additional cost to a
2 purchaser who spends more than two hundred dollars during any one
3 transaction for recreational licenses, permits, tags, or other
4 documents issued pursuant to chapter 77.32 RCW. The two hundred dollar
5 threshold includes all department of fish and wildlife recreational
6 documents purchased in the transaction, inclusive of any application
7 and transaction fees.



 Does ANYONE see where it says they must be purchased  for ONE person/wild ID??   I don't. I suppose we must hire a lawyer to figure it out

[deltaops]

As long as it is not $200 per person than I am ok with it, if it is then I say no.

[Band]

Now all of a sudden you think you're going to get a free pass because you got a big game license?

The only "all of a sudden" involved here is that the state started charging people to park in the middle of nowhere.  I could never consider the DP to be free even if someone handed me one without payment.  I shouldn't have to pay to park in the middle of nowhere.  Ever!

[fastdam]

We should not have to pay ANY toll fees just to travel across gods green earth.   Government should be a well run service at best, not the master. No, to a 200 dollar discover pass hunting papers BS.

[washelkhunter]

We should not have to pay ANY toll fees just to travel acress gods green earth.   Government should be a well run service at best, not the master. No, to a 200 dollar discover pass hunting papers BS.

  Dang skippy!

[Mtn.Ghost]

I don't like the DP to start with but I could vote yes on the comp pass with the $200+ purchase of lics. & tags. Will the purchase of special permit apps be included inn the $200.00 minimum? I think so being as it says all wdfw documents purchased, am I thinking correctly on that? I think that most of us in allot of cases spend $200.00+ on hunting, fishing, permit apps ect. per season granted maybe not everyone all at once currently, but I can see allot of us saving up to make one purchase for the sake of a comp DP, I would. In that case if this passes do you think the state may have the potential of losing more money than they have tried to make by implementing the DP in the first place and if so whats the point anyway? I don't like extra fee's and permits as it is but I do realize funding is necessary for managing our resources but the dog and pony show put on by the state and all the political b.s. sure gets old and annoying Why cant they just do something simple like a $10- $15 fee for the wdfw access pass that we currently get with our lics purchase? I may be wrong but didn't we used to pay something for that pass in the past when it was first introduce, I can't remember for sure. Well I just hope something will come about that is fair and economical for everyone involved. Like I said I'm not a fan of extra fee's and permits to begin with but on the other hand not a fan of a non funded game management program either although, with what ever funds are available at any given time surely without a doubt could be much better utilized