Warning for Kapowsin shed hunters UPDATED WITH FORMAL ANSWER

[Thehowler]

Yes, Clyde always carries a fresh razor blade to scape The window sticker off the windshield of anyone who does not quite agree with his thinking.
Permits are not selling out as quick as they use too in there.

[CAMPMEAT]

Yes, Clyde always carries a fresh razor blade to scape The window sticker off the windshield of anyone who does not quite agree with his thinking.
Permits are not selling out as quick as they use too in there.

Clyde would have a huge problem if he did that to my truck.

[woodman]

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He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks  PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee. 

I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.

Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!

A couple of thoughts here funkster.

First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.

Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement.

It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.

With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.

[Thehowler]

Even if you were 6'7" tall and 350 pounds, you may have a problem Campmeat. I've heard story's. 

[CAMPMEAT]

Even if you were 6'7" tall and 350 pounds, you may have a problem Campmeat. I've heard story's. 

Size doesn't mean squat to me. Been around the block more than the average guy.............

[funkster]

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He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks  PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee. 

I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.

Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!

A couple of thoughts here funkster.

First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.

Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement.

It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.

With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.

Being able to drive in to the escapement area is fair, the spring bear tag is designed to be a damage control hunt. It would make little scenes to offer a damage control tag and handicap the hunter that is helping your company save thousands of dollars in tree damage.

What you're failing to comprehend is if Hancock doesn't abide outside of state laws, Hancock can put any stipulation they want on THEIR private property. I personally could care less but I don't own the land. It would be no different if you owned the land and allowed your friends on the property with the stipulation not shed hunt. State law permits shed hunting on public land, the land owner has ever right not to permit it.

[woodman]

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He doesn't own the animals or their antlers. He is hired to patrol/enforce rules on hancocks  PRIVATE PROPERTY they allow the public access for a fee. 

I believe what he is trying to do is good thing, keep it fair for all.

Like it has already been stated, these escapement areas are closed to motorized access to EVERYONE else except spring bear tag holders. I would bet Clyde would have zero problem with a spring bear tag holder picking up a shed if he WALKED into the escapement area!

A couple of thoughts here funkster.

First, I have talked to by a member that told me that Clyde said he would pull his permit if he found a shed in his vehicle even if it was not in an escapement area.

Second thought is about the fairness that you talk about. It is true that Spring bear hunters can drive in the escapement areas whereas others that do not draw the permit can not. Is that fair? I would like to think that if a person is lucky enough to draw that permit it would be nice if they follow state laws that they could pick up a shed antler as a perk of the special drawing. It hurts no one. I do know that workers on the farm drive in those area a lot and have been told by the office that they pick up antlers. So when you say the escapement areas are closed to everyone, that really is not a true statement.

It seems to me that some workers want their own little haven for antlers and tell a different story than the front office.

With that said, I do not value antlers more than my permit. We do pay a heck of a lot to get that permit and as long as we follow the laws, what good reason for Hancock is there just to irritate the people that support the permit program and respect the property.

Being able to drive in to the escapement area is fair, the spring bear tag is designed to be a damage control hunt. It would make little scenes to offer a damage control tag and handicap the hunter that is helping your company save thousands of dollars in tree damage.

What you're failing to comprehend is if Hancock doesn't abide outside of state laws, Hancock can put any stipulation they want on THEIR private property. I personally could care less but I don't own the land. It would be no different if you owned the land and allowed your friends on the property with the stipulation not shed hunt. State law permits shed hunting on public land, the land owner has ever right not to permit it.

Funkster, I will try to not get personal here. There is nothing in this thread that I don't understand. What you write about concerning the property ownership and what they can allow has been stated here earlier, even by bigtex. I did not see where anyone said that  the property owner could not restrict shed hunting. What you are failing to comprehend is that the front office gave a different answer than what Clyde is saying.

I started this thread trying to be of help to other guys out there so that they would not get in trouble with Clyde. It came up to ask the front office about it, so I did. That is where I got a different answer. I have no problem following rules, but comprehending is not a problem. I know that some think all others are stupid but themselves, but that truly is not the case.

[bentley30-06]

I cut a load of firewood in Hancock on Tuesday.  Clyde happened to stop me and my dad with a full load on.  He didn't ask if I punched my firewood card (which I did)  didn't even bother to look for it.  Also I asked him if he had heard or seen any sheds being found yet just to see what his reaction would be because I read this post prior to going in.  He simply said he hasn't seen any and it was pretty early.  Did not mention anything about not being legal or illegal to take sheds......someone straightened him out I guess

[MLhunter1]

This whole thing is about the guys who draw a spring bear tag and buy a short term access pass just for spring bear season.  You have a annual permit, it does not apply to you.  Thats why clyde didn't say anything.

[Pygmy]

I had an annual pass last year and got an earful from the gate keeper: C-man.  I'm with Woodman - just good to let everyone know who's saying what so everyone can make their own decisions.  I only wish I had found a shed that Clyde could punish me for

[CAMPMEAT]

Beat me like a redheaded step child....................

[bentley30-06]

This whole thing is about the guys who draw a spring bear tag and buy a short term access pass just for spring bear season.  You have a annual permit, it does not apply to you.  Thats why clyde didn't say anything.

I have received an unofficial notification from him in the past that it was unlawful for us to remove sheds.  I was simply updating the folks on here with what he told me that day.  It applies to me also.  I pay to access that land therefore any information about it...applies to me.

[MLhunter1]

 I had one in my hands and showed clyde a picture of another the other day.  And all he had to talk about was kicking guys out who take them behind the gates with a spring bear tag.  But by all means if you feel this applies to you feel free to leave the sheds for me.

[grundy53]

I had one in my hands and showed clyde a picture of another the other day.  And all he had to talk about was kicking guys out who take them behind the gates with a spring bear tag.  But by all means if you feel this applies to you feel free to leave the sheds for me.

Some of us have the regular pass and a spring bear permit...

sent from my typewriter

[longwalker]

In the end the hancock office makes the calls of course.  But in the meantime sounds like clyde will remove a pass and cause a guy to work with the office to get it back.  If they would allow us full pass holders drive behind the gates with the spring bear guys I would not have a problem with the bear guys grabbin sheds.  But there are sheds all over the farm, plenty for everyone who is willing to work for em.  Clyde likes to strutt his feathers. 

     

I would like to see Clyde try to take someones pass based on His own Will and desires. Seems to me that his job would be on the line if He pulled a stunt like that.
We as permit holders spend good money to not be harassed and looked at as if where always hiding something. My advise to anyone who has sheds in there truck and Clyde talking to you would be, Go talk to the office and management and No I'm not giving you my Pass and Key.

when you signed the access agreement you pretty well agreed to be subject to getting your pass "pulled" at the desecration of the tree farm. Clyde represents the tree farm from a boots on the ground stand point. so arguing or getting in a pissing match with the guy isnt going to play much in your favor. if your bear hunting then bear hunt, if you wanna shed hunt, then shed hunt and leave the truck at the gate. why you would rather pick up a antler over fill a bear tag is lost on me but to each his own. its really really simple to avoid the entire conflict. oh and Clyde's a member on this forum if you guys weren't aware