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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2014, 09:32:59 AM »
If you get an off-breed a couple suggestions;

You become a Pro-dog trainer and your wife becomes a vet.

It will be cheaper in the long run in most cases.  :chuckle:

When I was a wife my x and I bred and showed bullmastiff's... Your def. right about the vet part... :chuckle:

Lol, sorry, can't see avatars very well on the phone because I zoom in unless, you didn't have one when I posted...either way making excuses. haha

Watched a young couple I know breed a Boston Terrier. They were shocked it had to have a C-section, then shocked about the price, then shocked they only had two living pups to sell...

I sound like a flaming ass to many people I'm sure but, some folks just won't listen when it comes to breeding and the responsibilities it carries. Not to mention spreading bad genes around because they just want 100% of the profit from pups instead of spending a couple hundred bucks to test the parents for problems common to the breeds.

Unfortunately no matter how much common sense and experience you share, there are too many people in the dog world whose primary objective is to make as much profit as possible regardless of the impacts on the dogs and the breed. I just learned of a breeder who was retiring two of her bitches after years (I want to say 7-9 years) of TWO breedings a year. @ $1,000 a pup and 8-10 pups per breeding, this was a big chunk of income for them. Not much regard for the breed and certainly not for the dogs themselves. This was for a breed that most breeders (those that hunt and care about the dogs) are very selective about who adopts their pups.
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2014, 09:56:52 AM »
Two breedings a year? That is sick greed, puppy mill stuff. I also know a lady who did breed her Chessies responsibly with the proper testing etc, had four litters. As soon as the dog that gave all her life to the gal couldn't have any more litters she gave it away? WTF is wrong with people?
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2014, 10:55:18 AM »
Two breedings a year? That is sick greed, puppy mill stuff. I also know a lady who did breed her Chessies responsibly with the proper testing etc, had four litters. As soon as the dog that gave all her life to the gal couldn't have any more litters she gave it away? WTF is wrong with people?
Agreed on both accounts.  :bash:
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2014, 11:07:29 AM »
Show dog people call it "rehoming" while in the same breath chastising field folks for washouts which are usually sold to hunting homes/families. I think the show people are just always upset that the field trial folks can sell their dogs for a couple thousand dollars when they don't work out competitively. When a show dog doesn't work out it just eats a lot and doesn't have many skills or training.

Anyways, back to the Lagotto's. I've heard of them but, never seen one in person. For a seemingly "rare" breed $1,500 is a bargain. I know of some folks who've paid HUGE money to get Spinone's from Italy. I probably would have rather gotten a pointing lab. lol and ate dinner at the Met once a month for the rest of my life for the money.  :chuckle:
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2014, 11:37:56 AM »
The reason Labs, Goldens, Chessies and the like are the most common duck dogs are because they are the best.

Yes you will get the "have to have something few others have" folks and they MIGHT end up with a gem, but if I were gonna bet I would go with the tried and true.

You could get a well bred Lab that will more than exceed expectations for considerably less that will end up probably being healthier and easier to train in the long run.

If you are the type to NEED a "special" dog good luck.

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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2014, 01:15:32 PM »
I know of some folks who've paid HUGE money to get Spinone's from Italy. I probably would have rather gotten a pointing lab. lol and ate dinner at the Met once a month for the rest of my life for the money.  :chuckle:

You aren't joking. I have friends who breed Spinone Italiano's occasionally here in the US. They aren't in it for the money, they breed maybe one litter every 2-3 years, but they do try to be in line with what other breeders charge. Last I heard a pup would run you $2400.00 and that was on the low end.

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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2014, 03:09:31 PM »
Labs are probably the only dogs you can get for a "bargain" which are not a backyard unknown.
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2014, 05:46:11 PM »
I love this... :chuckle: And agree with alot of whats been said.. In the 9 years I showed bully's my bitch had 2 liters. that was it!   Few in the 1st and 1 in the second. Still have the pup from the second breeding. 
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2014, 11:16:08 PM »
I love this... :chuckle: And agree with alot of whats been said.. In the 9 years I showed bully's my bitch had 2 liters. that was it!   Few in the 1st and 1 in the second. Still have the pup from the second breeding.

Whoa :yike: that dog's a beast!! Must have quite a dog food budget to keep him happy!
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2014, 07:28:39 AM »
Labs are probably the only dogs you can get for a "bargain" which are not a backyard unknown.

What's your idea of a bargain?

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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2014, 08:03:53 AM »
$500-600 with parents that have proper testing. There was a master hunter to junior hunter litter advertised recently. I think that is bargain level, a better / nice breeding is about $800-1,000 and very well bred in the $2,000-3,000
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2014, 08:04:50 AM »
I love this... :chuckle: And agree with alot of whats been said.. In the 9 years I showed bully's my bitch had 2 liters. that was it!   Few in the 1st and 1 in the second. Still have the pup from the second breeding.

Whoa :yike: that dog's a beast!! Must have quite a dog food budget to keep him happy!

Met one of those at the park once. Made my lab look like a toy poodle. Got to pick up after it with a snow shovel. :)
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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2014, 08:57:27 AM »
I love this... :chuckle: And agree with alot of whats been said.. In the 9 years I showed bully's my bitch had 2 liters. that was it!   Few in the 1st and 1 in the second. Still have the pup from the second breeding.

Whoa :yike: that dog's a beast!! Must have quite a dog food budget to keep him happy!

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Re: Lagotto Romagnolo breed
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2014, 08:59:39 AM »
I love this... :chuckle: And agree with alot of whats been said.. In the 9 years I showed bully's my bitch had 2 liters. that was it!   Few in the 1st and 1 in the second. Still have the pup from the second breeding.

Whoa :yike: that dog's a beast!! Must have quite a dog food budget to keep him happy!

Met one of those at the park once. Made my lab look like a toy poodle. Got to pick up after it with a snow shovel. :)

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