Baiting Blacktail seminar?

[singleshot12]

ill say i have tried most things on blacktails for the purpose of trying to see whats in my areas with the most sign.... the mountain blacktails i have found really are not interested in anything foreign. as far as mature bucks curiosity will have them show themselves to your trail cam thats about it.  i have found natural mineral licks really are the only thing they touch. blacktails are at least to me too smart for those tricks and or non sense... perhaps lower elevation blacktail are different, my interest are for the alpine blacktail that ghost through the mountains...hard work, luck and persistance with time in the woods is more realistic. the high and lows of those S.O.B's......besides baiting blacktails seems to cheapen them..... i think the illusive grey ghost of the northwest deserves more than that.... just a dude with an opinion.

 

[jackmaster]

I'm not sure if they're any harder to bait.Blacktail like any other deer are lazy and opportunists. They will travel the easiest route and feed on the easiest,sweetest food source with the most calories to get them through the winter. They don't care if it's all in a big pile in the middle of the woods. They are just like us and have a sweet tooth preferring molasses,corn,and apples any day over salad.

we will have to agree to disagree, like i said in an earlier post, i have quite a few blackies hangn around my place and i have tried everything just to see if one works better than the other, blacktail pretty much didnt care what i put out there or what i grew, they would rather eat the wild blackberries, the little ones that grow along the ground on a viny sticker, they eat apples, but they would rather get them right out of the tree than a heaping pile on the ground, however the elk were sure appreciative at all the differant stuff i put out or grew 

[singleshot12]

You must have some finicky blacktail in your neck of the woods. According to some of my buddies they got almost all the local blacktail hooked on deer crack They tell me they're only using corn,doughnuts and apples.  Apples aren't really on the trees that long and deer will always seek them out on the ground,stump or tree.

[jackmaster]

i have hunted blackies my whole life, i aint saying they wont bait up, but they dont do it like some, doe and fawns are a little easier to get to come in, the deer around my place have no reason to be finicky, they dont get presured and i wont shoot them on my place, i have used salt and apple licks and corn licks up in the hills where i hunt, i have put out apples just to see if something is differant on public ground, only the elk take the opurtunity to snarf everything up, a big mature blacktail buck dont give a sqaut about nothin unless its that time of year, other than that all bets are off, you would have alot better shot at baiting elk and bear in i think 

[singleshot12]

I agree (most areas) baiting usually only brings in does and fawns but guaranteed to leave scent trails for mr buck to visit during the breeding season. I've hunted blacktail my whole life also but never baited. Just getting my info from a couple hardcore baiters that DO manage to kill a mature buck over or near bait almost every year. And when I say bait I mean a fairly large pile of corn,grain,molasses,apples and mineral block combined.

[jackmaster]

I agree (most areas) baiting usually only brings in does and fawns but guaranteed to leave scent trails for mr buck to visit during the breeding season. I've hunted blacktail my whole life also but never baited. Just getting my info from a couple hardcore baiters that DO manage to kill a mature buck over or near bait almost every year. And when I say bait I mean a fairly large pile of corn,grain,molasses,apples and mineral block combined.

well it makes sense if you can get doe to hang around especially when they come into heat, big bucks will travel thats for sure, i havent ever intentionally baited while trying to kill a big ole blacktail, now bear on the other hand i pretty much had baiting down to a science  i honestly dont care if i ever kill another bear, it was more fun just to watch them especially cubs, what a riot, they will make you laugh uncontrolably, you will end up scaring them off because you end up laughing out loud

[singleshot12]

It might be differant were deer and elk coexist also. Elk may be on the higher end of the pecking order when it comes to eats. Maybe the elk are running off the deer away from the bait? bears too

[grundy53]

After all the hoopla I just had to stop by this seminar hahaha. Sitting in it right now.

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[singleshot12]

The ignorance of a few will never cease to amaze me....

Let us know if you learned something

[raydog]

I agree (most areas) baiting usually only brings in does and fawns but guaranteed to leave scent trails for mr buck to visit during the breeding season. I've hunted blacktail my whole life also but never baited. Just getting my info from a couple hardcore baiters that DO manage to kill a mature buck over or near bait almost every year. And when I say bait I mean a fairly large pile of corn,grain,molasses,apples and mineral block combined.

Do your buds hunt private or public land. I think that is the biggest factor between success and failure.

[irishevox]

So what did the seminar say?

[grundy53]

So what did the seminar say?

To me... not much. It was sort of just a presentation on how effective baiting can be. Also seemed kinda like an advertisement for his guide service. But the presentation was actually pretty good.

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[irishevox]

so nothing really useful...

[singleshot12]

I agree (most areas) baiting usually only brings in does and fawns but guaranteed to leave scent trails for mr buck to visit during the breeding season. I've hunted blacktail my whole life also but never baited. Just getting my info from a couple hardcore baiters that DO manage to kill a mature buck over or near bait almost every year. And when I say bait I mean a fairly large pile of corn,grain,molasses,apples and mineral block combined.

Do your buds hunt private or public land. I think that is the biggest factor between success and failure.

Mostly private I'm sure now, but they have succesfully pulled some nice bucks down on public in the past.