The only good wolf is a dead wolf fan page

[NumaJohn]

I don't see a lot of respect for the animal on that page.  I understand this is a response to the crazy wolf lovers but not just crazy wolf lovers are on facebook.

Well put.

[AspenBud]

Sharing tasteful pictures of an animal you harvested 

Sharing gory pictures (see the facebook page) and perpetuating the myth that hunters are just blood thirsty killers with no respect for what they hunt   

It's this kind of stuff that gets around and ultimately bites us in the backside.  We will never appease the anti-hunters.  But when we (hunters) present ourselves in public (including social media) it is not a bad idea to think about how a non-hunter will perceive it...you know, those 80% or so of folks who vote but are not hunters or anti-hunters. 

 

Ever wonder why the wolf plan has such a high requirement? Probably in large part because the perception is the day a season opens it will be a blood bath that includes people looking to get even with wolves (read animal cruelty). Stuff like this just helps cement that view of wolf hunting and hunters in general.

I'm sure I'll catch flak for that, oh well, it won't be so great and funny when the pro wolf lobby scrapes that page for images to use when initiative time comes.

[finnman]

Sharing tasteful pictures of an animal you harvested 

Sharing gory pictures (see the facebook page) and perpetuating the myth that hunters are just blood thirsty killers with no respect for what they hunt   

It's this kind of stuff that gets around and ultimately bites us in the backside.  We will never appease the anti-hunters.  But when we (hunters) present ourselves in public (including social media) it is not a bad idea to think about how a non-hunter will perceive it...you know, those 80% or so of folks who vote but are not hunters or anti-hunters. 

 

Ever wonder why the wolf plan has such a high requirement? Probably in large part because the perception is the day a season opens it will be a blood bath that includes people looking to get even with wolves (read animal cruelty). Stuff like this just helps cement that view of wolf hunting and hunters in general.

I'm sure I'll catch flak for that, oh well, it won't be so great and funny when the pro wolf lobby scrapes that page for images to use when initiative time comes.

They have all of the ammo they need, they don't need more REAL photos they just make their own. That's the funny thing with these anti type, they have no remorse using lies and deception to further their purpose, unlike many hunters who have a moral compass of right and wrong. Notice I said MANY not ALL.
The coyote with its head blown off...bad judgment, people do not need to see that on social media, now wolf kills, that's a whole different story.

[trophyhunt]

I could care less what the anti wolf people see or hear, keep posting pics boys!!  You really think being polite hunters will get them to agree or like us!?  Get real, they don't like us and we don't care for them. Just the way it is, and I'm not going to change my way of doing things to have a false feeling that it will make them happy!  Kill all the wolves in the Lower 48!

[AspenBud]

Do what you want, just don't be surprised if it comes back to bite you. History will repeat itself if you're not careful and keep feeding them easy propaganda. But what do I know? Stuff like this never happens in Washington...

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/nov/13/passage-of-initiative-655-leaves-hunters-up-a-tree/

[wence5]

Do what you want, just don't be surprised if it comes back to bite you. History will repeat itself if you're not careful and keep feeding them easy propaganda. But what do I know? Stuff like this never happens in Washington...

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1996/nov/13/passage-of-initiative-655-leaves-hunters-up-a-tree/

Good read Aspen. Since this article was written in 1996 most everything they said would happen did happen or is on the way to happening. The only reason Idaho voters haven't adopted the same foolishness is because they don't have a stacked deck with a super large liberal urban voting block. Sportsman in WA don't have this luxury and I doubt ever will. We are in a position to fight an uphill battle with these groups in WA. With what they have achieved with baiting and hounding and now the infestation of wolves the sportsman of WA need to figure out how to battle and beat this foe. These groups are well funded, skillful liars, and zealots.

[jackmaster]

dang those two woles in the one pic are huge, those two guy look to be pretty big boys and the wolves are as big as they are  i would bet that even a pro wolfer would change his stance on the issue after he  or she gets hauled down by a pack of those killing machines 

[Broker]

I could care less what the anti wolf people see or hear, keep posting pics boys!!  You really think being polite hunters will get them to agree or like us!?  Get real, they don't like us and we don't care for them. Just the way it is, and I'm not going to change my way of doing things to have a false feeling that it will make them happy!  Kill all the wolves in the Lower 48!

You are completely missing the point.  The extremist are just that "extreme", they are outside the norm and are not in sufficient numbers to enact any change.  They can believe wolves howl on lonely mountain tops while shooting a rainbow of skittles out their behinds for all I care.

The people who matter are the city living, non hunting voters.  They don't know anything about hunting and very few of them actually know a hunter personally.  Eventually, they may seek some education on the matter.  Since most don't even know a hunter to ask for information, they will turn to the Internet.  Do you want them to think that all hunters are like the few hunters on that page showing such disrespect for their game?

Someone astutely brought up I-655.  In that case the city living, non hunting voters were educated about the evils of hound hunting, bear baiting and trapping by an extreme group via tv commercials.  In those commercials were a lot of similar images to what I'm seeing on the facebook site.  Very little of what was sold to the public was even remotely true, but they had pics and video to weave into their lies and it worked very well.

[trophyhunt]

I really didn't see anything offensive in the pics, holding the wolf up gives you a good sense of how big they are.  The other pics is just showing in numbers how many were killed, just like if you hung up a deer or elk except they don't have antlers to hang them by.  I know what your saying but they can make it look any way they want, people on the ropes of deciding what they want to believe we really can't help that.  If they are intelligent enough to make a decision then they will make the right one, and understand our side of things. 


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[bearpaw]

A couple of those pics are untasteful, you have to click on the one to see the worst part, I see what the others are referring to.

[wence5]

I could care less what the anti wolf people see or hear, keep posting pics boys!!  You really think being polite hunters will get them to agree or like us!?  Get real, they don't like us and we don't care for them. Just the way it is, and I'm not going to change my way of doing things to have a false feeling that it will make them happy!  Kill all the wolves in the Lower 48!

You are completely missing the point.  The extremist are just that "extreme", they are outside the norm and are not in sufficient numbers to enact any change.  They can believe wolves howl on lonely mountain tops while shooting a rainbow of skittles out their behinds for all I care.

The people who matter are the city living, non hunting voters.  They don't know anything about hunting and very few of them actually know a hunter personally.  Eventually, they may seek some education on the matter.  Since most don't even know a hunter to ask for information, they will turn to the Internet.  Do you want them to think that all hunters are like the few hunters on that page showing such disrespect for their game?

Someone astutely brought up I-655.  In that case the city living, non hunting voters were educated about the evils of hound hunting, bear baiting and trapping by an extreme group via tv commercials.  In those commercials were a lot of similar images to what I'm seeing on the facebook site.  Very little of what was sold to the public was even remotely true, but they had pics and video to weave into their lies and it worked very well.

Very well put. I agree with you 100%. Like I said they are well funded, they lie and they are zealots. They have fertile ground to till in the large cities to force bad legislation through that the rest of us have to follow. We need to somehow educate to city duelers to the truth, and I'm not sure this FB page is the right way. That doesn't alter my hatred for this pest.

[AspenBud]

Flipping through some of those photos...that site is a hunting and trapping PR nightmare.

It's one thing to want to control predator numbers, it's entirely another to such have total disrespect for the animal you're trapping and hunting.

Just how I see things.

[wolfbait]

While everyone worries about what the other side might think, or how they might use a picture, pictures, the pro-wolfers are eating your lunch. Does anyone actually think these pictures at this point would alter an already brain-washed public. Have you ever spent hours trying to convince a pro-wolfer of what wolves really do? Or the end results and they still revert back to wolves balance the ecosystem or wolves and game herds just need more habitat.

Look at all the information on the net. in ID, MT, Wyoming, Arizona etc. of wolves killing just to kill, the impacts on wildlife, livestock and wolves coming right in on people homes and killing their pets, do you think the people who love wolves care enough to look for the truth? We have seen people right here on W-H look the other way and argue the wolves are needed, or they don't impact the game herds. Pictures of a few dead wolves are not going to change the outcome.

It's too bad the sportsmen and women can't come together and fight this as one, everyone who enjoys the great outdoors. But that will never happen until the wolves are affecting them in some way.

Divide and conquer, I think thats where we are today, with some people looking through a screen and others seeing the full clear picture. 

Trying to be politically correct hasn't really worked that well so far has it?

[AspenBud]

While everyone worries about what the other side might think, or how they might use a picture, pictures, the pro-wolfers are eating your lunch. Does anyone actually think these pictures at this point would alter an already brain-washed public. Have you ever spent hours trying to convince a pro-wolfer of what wolves really do? Or the end results and they still revert back to wolves balance the ecosystem or wolves and game herds just need more habitat.

Look at all the information on the net. in ID, MT, Wyoming, Arizona etc. of wolves killing just to kill, the impacts on wildlife, livestock and wolves coming right in on people homes and killing their pets, do you think the people who love wolves care enough to look for the truth? We have seen people right here on W-H look the other way and argue the wolves are needed, or they don't impact the game herds. Pictures of a few dead wolves are not going to change the outcome.

It's too bad the sportsmen and women can't come together and fight this as one, everyone who enjoys the great outdoors. But that will never happen until the wolves are affecting them in some way.

Divide and conquer, I think thats where we are today, with some people looking through a screen and others seeing the full clear picture. 

Trying to be politically correct hasn't really worked that well so far has it?

How's your conspiracy theory peddling on Hunt WA going? Getting much traction with the people in the middle who would vote on an anti wolf hunting initiative?

Even if you reach every single one of the less than 200,000 registered hunters in this state, including me, you still have literally millions of others to worry about, and you have a lot more to lose with them by not being politically correct.

[idahohuntr]

  

Those undecided voters really turn against you when they see that tinfoil hat