SSS : poll

[buckfvr]

Its a lot easier said than done............................

[trophyhunt]

Its a lot easier said than done............................

i agree, not sure how many would actually pull the trigger?  That's why I think threads like this don't give any anti's ammo, it's just talk and opinions.

[Hunterman]

This H-W thread has been linked and discussed on a wolf advocates web site

Who cares.. Not wanting to start any fight here, but who really cares. I have read, and watched the way some of the post go on this, and at some point someone will come up with the " This will or is going to make good ammo for the anti's" and then the whole thread turns. If a person doesn't have the backbone to stand-up for what they say, and are not afraid of what other think of them for their stands, then maybe just maybe they should not say anything.

trophyhunt,, I for one think this is a very good thread, to find how people think, and feel. I will say that I voted "No". and don't give 2 hoots on who see'e it or their care.

Hunterrman(Tony)

[idahohuntr]

Who cares..

People who support state based management of wolves that includes hunting them.

[trophyhunt]

This H-W thread has been linked and discussed on a wolf advocates web site

Who cares.. Not wanting to start any fight here, but who really cares. I have read, and watched the way some of the post go on this, and at some point someone will come up with the " This will or is going to make good ammo for the anti's" and then the whole thread turns. If a person doesn't have the backbone to stand-up for what they say, and are not afraid of what other think of them for their stands, then maybe just maybe they should not say anything.

trophyhunt,, I for one think this is a very good thread, to find how people think, and feel. I will say that I voted "No". and don't give 2 hoots on who see'e it or their care.

Hunterrman(Tony)

very well said, you nailed it. Thank you for the post!

[Hunterman]

   Now I have to go out and get some work done.

Hunterman(Tony)

[buckfvr]

Who cares..

People who support state based management of wolves that includes hunting them.

Be fine with me if the tribes kill every last one of them........I do not support state based management of anything under the current administration, regionally and beyond.   

[STIKNSTRINGBOW]

Only comment I will make...
As a recurve hunter, if one is close enough to me that I have the choice.. I am in fear for my life.
I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

[Bob33]

Only comment I will make...
As a recurve hunter, if one is close enough to me that I have the choice.. I am in fear for my life.
I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

If you're in fear of your life, the second and third Ss are irrelevant.

[PolarBear]

Just remember the old South Park defense...  "It's coming right for us!!!!!!!!!!!".
http://youtu.be/Nt6kKhlX8vU

[KFhunter]

Well bearpaw seen this and several mods seen it so I take that as a green light.


Threads like these are useful in seeing the anger and frustration out there RE wolves.  WDFW is failing the hunters and I for one do not trust the state in any game management if past history is any indication.  I didn't loose that trust on the wolf issues alone however, with just about any species out there (excepting turkey) one can find gross mismanagement negligence within WDFW.


They are using their hunting base as nothing more than a voluntary tax paying base.


For the record I will not conduct illegal activities and thankfully the wolves are illusive enough I'm not tested in my resolve 
I will however defend myself vigorously if challenged or threatened. 

[washelkhunter]

It's easy to be pro wolf since it does'nt cost the supporter anything. I see no reason to repeat the experiences of ID and MT here.  Wolves weren't allowed to be hunted in those states until they had devasted the deer and elk herds.  By the way what is that pro wolf website?

[KFhunter]

After reading UC WARDEN I'm under the impression WDFW is also grossly negligent in law enforcement.  It pisses me off to no end they nickle and dime hunters for a game rules that are in my opinion designed to create the maximum amount of violators possible.  How many have heard the phrase " I need a lawyer in my back pocket in the field ".  So they go after stupid crap like someone dragging their deer down through the brush a little ways to a blocked off road then gutting it then tagging it...BIG FREAKIN DEAL it's not like he had it in the truck driving away.  Nail the hell out of someone if they're dragging it out to the truck w/o a tag not down through 20 foot of brush where it'll be easier to gut.  If I were a game warden I'd saunter up and congradulate the hunter, tell him he'd better get his tag on it then help drag it out.      

I'm pissed off about their Elk management pratices.   You've got Elk clashing with farmers in the western WA area, so they bring in professional USFWS killers to poach cull them at night instead of helping hunters gain access and encouraging farmers to allow hunters to take the animals.   What incentive is there for a farmer to let hunters on their property when they're getting compensated by the state and USFWS poachers "hunters" will take them at night???   

THEN in the NE/WA they feed the small herds to the wolves, AFTER having neglected them for 20+ years!!!  The NE is capable of some fantastic herds of Elk and amazing hunting if only the state would get off their asses and DO SOMETHING to help the Elk herds here.  They were struggling prior to wolves and now they're being decimated in a perfect trifecta of cats, bears and now wolves.     

Same for the OIL moose tags, they're doing NOTHING to preserve our Moose,  F-em feed em to the wolves      guys got 24 years worth of points trying to get a moose tag only to have the freakin wolves eat them.   

WDFW is capable of liberal application of hound hunting permits even with the voter initiative, instead they adopt this asinine cougar plan that limits each GMU to a pittance of what should be taken by hunters.  2 cats for GMU 105 ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??   WTFap!   

WDFW is also capable of expanding bear baiting permits, they do it for private timber companies WHY NOT try to get that canceled in favor of hunters doing it?  Bears peel trees on DNR land too you know    Designate huge swaths of land as bear damage areas and bring in the dogs and bait piles!   
Remove the spring draw and make it a simple OTC tag like turkey, so you can fill your spring tag then purchase another tag for the fall hunt.

[trophyhunt]

After reading UC WARDEN I'm under the impression WDFW is also grossly negligent in law enforcement.  It pisses me off to no end they nickle and dime hunters for a game rules that are in my opinion designed to create the maximum amount of violators possible.  How many have heard the phrase " I need a lawyer in my back pocket in the field ".  So they go after stupid crap like someone dragging their deer down through the brush a little ways to a blocked off road then gutting it then tagging it...BIG FREAKIN DEAL it's not like he had it in the truck driving away.  Nail the hell out of someone if they're dragging it out to the truck w/o a tag not down through 20 foot of brush where it'll be easier to gut.  If I were a game warden I'd saunter up and congradulate the hunter, tell him he'd better get his tag on it then help drag it out.      

I'm pissed off about their Elk management pratices.   You've got Elk clashing with farmers in the western WA area, so they bring in professional USFWS killers to poach cull them at night instead of helping hunters gain access and encouraging farmers to allow hunters to take the animals.   What incentive is there for a farmer to let hunters on their property when they're getting compensated by the state and USFWS poachers "hunters" will take them at night???   

THEN in the NE/WA they feed the small herds to the wolves, AFTER having neglected them for 20+ years!!!  The NE is capable of some fantastic herds of Elk and amazing hunting if only the state would get off their asses and DO SOMETHING to help the Elk herds here.  They were struggling prior to wolves and now they're being decimated in a perfect trifecta of cats, bears and now wolves.     

Same for the OIL moose tags, they're doing NOTHING to preserve our Moose,  F-em feed em to the wolves      guys got 24 years worth of points trying to get a moose tag only to have the freakin wolves eat them.   

WDFW is capable of liberal application of hound hunting permits even with the voter initiative, instead they adopt this asinine cougar plan that limits each GMU to a pittance of what should be taken by hunters.  2 cats for GMU 105 ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??   WTFap!   

WDFW is also capable of expanding bear baiting permits, they do it for private timber companies WHY NOT try to get that canceled in favor of hunters doing it?  Bears peel trees on DNR land too you know    Designate huge swaths of land as bear damage areas and bring in the dogs and bait piles!   
Remove the spring draw and make it a simple OTC tag like turkey, so you can fill your spring tag then purchase another tag for the fall hunt.

I wish I could vote you on the wildlife commission, you would be able to speak for many hunters in our state. The anger is real and I think it's how most of us feel for the most part.  And part of that anger is knowing all the work that some good bio's have done is gonna go to waste, or should I say go to the wolves.  That passion you have is why I posted this poll, I just wanted to see how most felt.

[wolfbait]

After reading UC WARDEN I'm under the impression WDFW is also grossly negligent in law enforcement.  It pisses me off to no end they nickle and dime hunters for a game rules that are in my opinion designed to create the maximum amount of violators possible.  How many have heard the phrase " I need a lawyer in my back pocket in the field ".  So they go after stupid crap like someone dragging their deer down through the brush a little ways to a blocked off road then gutting it then tagging it...BIG FREAKIN DEAL it's not like he had it in the truck driving away.  Nail the hell out of someone if they're dragging it out to the truck w/o a tag not down through 20 foot of brush where it'll be easier to gut.  If I were a game warden I'd saunter up and congradulate the hunter, tell him he'd better get his tag on it then help drag it out.      

I'm pissed off about their Elk management pratices.   You've got Elk clashing with farmers in the western WA area, so they bring in professional USFWS killers to poach cull them at night instead of helping hunters gain access and encouraging farmers to allow hunters to take the animals.   What incentive is there for a farmer to let hunters on their property when they're getting compensated by the state and USFWS poachers "hunters" will take them at night???   

THEN in the NE/WA they feed the small herds to the wolves, AFTER having neglected them for 20+ years!!!  The NE is capable of some fantastic herds of Elk and amazing hunting if only the state would get off their asses and DO SOMETHING to help the Elk herds here.  They were struggling prior to wolves and now they're being decimated in a perfect trifecta of cats, bears and now wolves.     

Same for the OIL moose tags, they're doing NOTHING to preserve our Moose,  F-em feed em to the wolves      guys got 24 years worth of points trying to get a moose tag only to have the freakin wolves eat them.   

WDFW is capable of liberal application of hound hunting permits even with the voter initiative, instead they adopt this asinine cougar plan that limits each GMU to a pittance of what should be taken by hunters.  2 cats for GMU 105 ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??   WTFap!   

WDFW is also capable of expanding bear baiting permits, they do it for private timber companies WHY NOT try to get that canceled in favor of hunters doing it?  Bears peel trees on DNR land too you know    Designate huge swaths of land as bear damage areas and bring in the dogs and bait piles!   
Remove the spring draw and make it a simple OTC tag like turkey, so you can fill your spring tag then purchase another tag for the fall hunt.

I wish I could vote you on the wildlife commission, you would be able to speak for many hunters in our state. The anger is real and I think it's how most of us feel for the most part.  And part of that anger is knowing all the work that some good bio's have done is gonna go to waste, or should I say go to the wolves.  That passion you have is why I posted this poll, I just wanted to see how most felt.

 

Most people who live where wolves have been released, and then have to deal with the wolves, while WDFW lie about how many wolves are in their area, believe in the SS rule. And these sentiments are being felt by people who use to think wolves were a great addition to WA.