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Do you agree with shoot shovel and shut up, with wolves?

Yes
87 (36.4%)
No
47 (19.7%)
Just shoot and shut up!
89 (37.2%)
I would turn them in if I saw it happen !
16 (6.7%)

Total Members Voted: 239

Voting closed: June 16, 2014, 11:03:24 PM

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Offline JLS

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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2014, 08:52:48 PM »
So illegal that the governor of Idaho told his game wardens to not spend a dime on pursuing wolf kills by people a couple years ago when it was out of control over there? Most of us are legal hunters here, this thread just shows how frustrating it is having wolves in our state protected. Most agree they don't care if wolves die, so what. There might be a law in our state in the near future that makes it illegal for you to smoke in your car when anyone under 18 is riding w you.  So if I put a poll up asking if you smoke in your car w kids in it, will you be just as negative about it? Illegal doesn't always make sense, common sense makes sense. Just sayin.

Actually, he ordered that in response to Judge Malloy's ruling that halted the state sanctioned wolf hunts that began in the late 2000's.  I don't disagree with him either, if the state is going to pay for the management of wolves, and they had met the predicated delisting thresholds then I would certainly want the hunts to move forward.  Since they didn't, Idaho should not have been footing the bill for wolf management.

Otter’s News Release
 
(BOISE) – Governor C.L. “Butch” Otter notified Interior Secretary Ken Salazar today that Idaho no longer will act as the federal government’s “designated agent,” managing wolves imposed on the state under the Endangered Species Act.
 
Instead, the Governor directed the Idaho Fish and Game Commission to immediately refocus its efforts on protecting Idaho’s deer, elk and moose, and said the Idaho Department of Fish and Game will be submitting applications to the Interior Department for additional flexibility in addressing wolf depredation issues “so we can exercise our sovereign right to protect our wildlife.”
 
“This directive preserves an individual’s right to kill a wolf in self defense or in the defense of another person. It does not jeopardize the existing flexibility landowners and permittees have to protect their livestock and pets from wolves,” Governor Otter wrote in a letter to Salazar. “Additionally, this approach does not ask Idahoans who continue suffering wolves – especially sportsmen – to subsidize any part of this federal program or bear the risk or burden of inadequate federal funding in the future.”
 
In his letter, the Governor reiterated that the State of Idaho has consistently proven itself to be a responsible steward of all wildlife – “including your wolves.”
 
“We also showed that we could successfully manage a hunting season for wolves as we do for other species,” he said. “The State managed wolves as part of the ecosystem, in concert with other species and needs, which was ironically decried by environmentalists who seemingly want wolves to benefit at the expense of other wild and domestic species.”
 
“I am still committed to finding a path forward for delisting. My goal remains restoring State management under our approved plan as quickly as possible, if for no other reason than to fulfill the promise of our State law that all wildlife within our borders will be managed by the State. To that end, I am encouraged by the efforts of representatives from the three legislatures (Idaho, Montana and Wyoming) to see if there is a path forward for delisting and state management,” Governor Otter wrote to Salazar. “Although we could not agree during the course of our negotiations, I share your commitment to delist the species and restore state management as quickly as possible. It is truly frustrating that we cannot accomplish that shared goal today.”
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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2014, 08:58:49 PM »
 :yeah:

He's welcome to run for governor of WA

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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2014, 09:02:46 PM »
Picture were captured two days ago by a Rancher 3 miles west from AppleYard outside town of Wentachee.  :o

Just so you know.... Dont mail it thur Fed Ex.   :tup:
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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2014, 09:06:06 PM »
looks well fed, and then some...........

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« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2014, 09:09:01 PM »
Not well fed enough.   It looks like it is deficient in lead and copper.

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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2014, 09:12:21 PM »
Some of you act like SSS was invented yesterday.  You don't think the anti's know about it?  They use to and may still sell t-shirts in most sporting good stores in ID with SSS on the front of them.  If you are so worried about giving anti's ammo.  I suggest you log out of this site and do not return.  Because this site without any wolf topics is a target rich environment for anti's.
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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2014, 09:18:46 PM »
There is an anti wolf facebook page that I am on that gets death threats from absolute lunatic anti hunter/pro wolf morons every single day.  Some of these cretins actually wish death on  hunter's entire family just because they support killing wolves.   :dunno:   The extreme antis in any movement don't need much to grab and run with.  They will allways make a hyperbolic mess out of anything, true or not.

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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2014, 09:28:06 PM »
There is an anti wolf facebook page that I am on that gets death threats from absolute lunatic anti hunter/pro wolf morons every single day.  Some of these cretins actually wish death on  hunter's entire family just because they support killing wolves.   :dunno:   The extreme antis in any movement don't need much to grab and run with.  They will allways make a hyperbolic mess out of anything, true or not.
Kill a family, save a wolf. :dunno:
That makes no sense. Stooopid.
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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2014, 08:04:56 AM »
I would agree with P-mans oppion of "staying beyond approach", however since we do not have ANY support from the WDFW or the politicians i don't think it matters. With out departmental support or Political support hunters either die a slow death or a quick one. Unless there is some kind of ideological change in this state the best we can do is hold the line, we certainly wont make any real gains....

EVEN if some one a mild as Rob Mckenna had been elected GOV he wouldn't likely be overly concerned about hunting and what is going on... We would have a chance, but he would likely be preoccupied with state revenue, budgets, shoots etc. About the best outcome would be to get some REAL sportsman running the WDFW again.
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« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2014, 08:19:54 AM »
hOW CAN I SUM THIS UP ??? O.K So some of you are saying its o.k for these groups to keep criticizing hunters and their heritage  but we should remain quiet on our opinions on what we think of them ? It is a free country and sitting around and being quiet is not going to work ...We are not the only people disagreeing with the wolf thing !!!!

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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #70 on: February 04, 2014, 05:22:08 AM »
I wonder if WDFW has a robo-wolf yet that they could set up to bust people willing to shoot wolves?

The WDFW won't do a set-up that is more than 25 yds off a paved road. They're to lazy.

Any idiot who shoots one 25 yds off the road deserves what they get...




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« Reply #71 on: February 04, 2014, 07:01:08 AM »
hOW CAN I SUM THIS UP ??? O.K So some of you are saying its o.k for these groups to keep criticizing hunters and their heritage  but we should remain quiet on our opinions on what we think of them ? It is a free country and sitting around and being quiet is not going to work ...We are not the only people disagreeing with the wolf thing !!!!
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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #72 on: February 04, 2014, 07:07:38 AM »
My old man always told me only a fool tells on himself.

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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #73 on: February 04, 2014, 07:08:01 AM »
First rule of SSS club is don't talk about SSS club !

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Re: SSS : poll
« Reply #74 on: February 04, 2014, 01:16:08 PM »
 :yeah:

 


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