Hornady reloading manual

[ckr]

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone here has the newest hornady reloading manual?  I was up at skagit arms the other day looking for some powder to make some mild/mod 308loads for my son.  The guy at the counter pulled out the hornady book and showed me some powders that they had in stock that would work.  I decided to go with IMR 8208 because the book was showing reduced fps (2200) I think.

My problem is I realized when I got home that I did not have the info to make these loads.

If some one could take a pic or send me the info that would be awesome.

308win. 150gr bullets. IMR 8208 powder.

[bobcat]

Data is available on the Hodgdon site:

http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

[ckr]

Thanks bobcat I have looked at that.  The hornady book had some lighter loads then what the powder site has

[CAMPMEAT]

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone here has the newest hornady reloading manual?  I was up at skagit arms the other day looking for some powder to make some mild/mod 308loads for my son.  The guy at the counter pulled out the hornady book and showed me some powders that they had in stock that would work.  I decided to go with IMR 8208 because the book was showing reduced fps (2200) I think.

My problem is I realized when I got home that I did not have the info to make these loads.

If some one could take a pic or send me the info that would be awesome.

308win. 150gr bullets. IMR 8208 powder.

I find 8208 XBR only.

I use VARGET for my 308. Can you take that back and get VARGET ? There is a light load for VARGET at the speed you want.

[Bill W]

8208 was introduced a few years ago at the request of some benchrest shooters.   They were trying to get Hodgdons to recreate Scot 3032 with a run of somewhere between 10K and 100K pounds.  Hodgdons realized it was better for them if they made it available to the reloading public.    IMR 8208 and 8208 XBR is the same powder.  It's listed as IMR 8208 under the IMR style powders and has the XBR designation on the bottles.

What the BR shooters were looking for was a powder that was even less temperature sensitive than the usual BR selected powders.   

There used to be a Scot 3032 powder and a Hodgdon one.... I think 322 was what Hodgdon's called it.  Hodgdon's bought Scot and in their infinite wisdom canceled the Scot version which was the cleaner burning powder.

[ckr]

Your right campmeat, it's the 8208 XBR

[CAMPMEAT]

Your right campmeat, it's the 8208 XBR

Here you go :
150-155 grain bullets:

2300 fps
39.0 grains 8202XBR

2400 fps
40.3 grains XBR

2500 fps
41.6 grains XBR

2600 fps
42.9 grains XBR

2700 fps                    WARNING
44.2 grains XBR      MAXIMUM LOAD

[brokenvet]

load for 8208XBR for 150 grain bullet is 39 grains of 8208 minimum and 2300 PFS.

You want mild load then use 120 or 130 grain bullets

[ckr]

Thank you sir.  That was the load I was looking for.  Much appreciated.

[CAMPMEAT]

Thank you sir.  That was the load I was looking for.  Much appreciated.

Not a problem.

[bobcat]

You want mild load then use 120 or 130 grain bullets

   A lighter bullet would help a lot. A 130 grain Barnes would work well even for elk.

[ckr]

The 130 is a great idea.  I just happen to have a few boxes of 150 fmj in the cupboard and thought I would make a load for my son to have fun with.  He is not recoil shy and has shot a lot of factory 308 rounds in the 150-180 ranges.  I was thinking if I could bring the fps down around 2200-2300 it would be comfortable to shoot all day and still be able to take a deer at 100 yrds with a different bullet.  Am I way off on this thinking?
As I understand it, you either have a very light weight bullet going fast (3000 fps)
And moderate weight bullet (130ish) go around 2500fps
Or a heavier weight bullet (150ish) go around 2200 fps
For reduced recoil

Please let me know if I am off base

Also dose anyone know how well any of the ballistic tip type bullets work at slower speeds?  I have heard stories of the bullets not expanding and if this is true, what bullet would you recommend for deer and possibly elk if I hop the fps up a little.  I only have experience with 180 partitions out of my 300win which work great by the way

[luteai]

I've been using reduced loads for my wife and young hunters in 7-08 with the 120 grain ballistic tip over H4895 for 10 or so years now.  No shots over 200 yards to date, but great expansion (not retention) from 40 to 175 yards.  The bullet moves out the barrel at 2450fps. Deer drop very quick with this load. (18.5 to 22 inch barrels very minor velocity change)

[Yondering]

Also dose anyone know how well any of the ballistic tip type bullets work at slower speeds?  I have heard stories of the bullets not expanding and if this is true, what bullet would you recommend for deer and possibly elk if I hop the fps up a little.  I only have experience with 180 partitions out of my 300win which work great by the way

You have to understand that expansion decreases as velocity goes down. The 125gr Ballistic Tip is one of the really good bullets in the 300 Blackout, which pushes them at 2000-2300 fps. At that velocity it doesn't blow up like a varmint bullet, it acts more like a regular hunting bullet. Load your .308 to the same specs for a real mild load that works great on deer.

[JackOfAllTrades]

Recoil calculator

http://handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp

-Steve

[ckr]

Thanks Steve for the website. I will check it out.  By any chance do you know how accurate the info they give you is?

[JackOfAllTrades]

Thanks Steve for the website. I will check it out.  By any chance do you know how accurate the info they give you is?

I've compared that site to the formula's in some of my books. It's darn close to the same.  Shape/comb/drop of the gun stalk will change felt recoil, but the link allows you to compare two different loads so you get a reference of what one or more changes will result in.

-Steve