Evergreen Archery Club - Snow Shoot - Spokane, Feb 9th

[724wd]

Our first shoot of the year, the annual Snow Shoot is a 3D Extravaganza!  This year we are taking credit/debit cards for registration!  Later this week our online preregistration system will be up and running so you can skip the line!  Concessions are still cash only, and is run and supports the Deer Park NASP program!  Hope to see some of you there! 

[D-Rock425]

Any buddy want to carpool to Spokane.

[BULLBLASTER]

Ill be there!

[sakoshooter]

How many targets?

[724wd]

How many targets?

40, but there will probably be a bonus or two

[Dhoey07]

Never done a shoot, what's the jist of it?  You said 40 targets so you just walk a course and get scored on where you hit the targets or just if you hit them?  Range finders?  How far of shots?  Sounds fun any way you slice it 

[BULLBLASTER]

How many targets?

40, but there will probably be a bonus or two

hopefully only a bonus or two  start getting too many bonus targets and they will take over.

[D-Rock425]

I've been thinking about these shoots with bonus point targets and I don't like them much.  One target shouldn't be the deciding factor in a shoot.  Great to have them on Saturdays or fun shoots but on Sunday when the score matters on most shoots I like to see who wins heads up.

[BULLBLASTER]

I've been thinking about these shoots with bonus point targets and I don't like them much.  One target shouldn't be the deciding factor in a shoot.  Great to have them on Saturdays or fun shoots but on Sunday when the score matters on most shoots I like to see who wins heads up.

ive been to shoots with 4-6 bonus targets. Some being triple points! A lucky shot there could cause a win... I like to see heads up as well.

[D-Rock425]

Anyway back to the shoot don't want to

[724wd]

Never done a shoot, what's the jist of it?  You said 40 targets so you just walk a course and get scored on where you hit the targets or just if you hit them?  Range finders?  How far of shots?  Sounds fun any way you slice it 

you've pretty much got it.  target scoring explained at the registration booth, but with 3d it's usually 5 points for foam, 8 points for outer ring, 10 points for bullseye, add an X for the tiny ring.  Rangefinders ok if you're not turning in a score card.  no sharing info with others, either  .  shots out to 55 yards or so. 

interesting view point on the bonus targets.  i usually don't turn in a score card so i don't worry too much about how the bonuses stack up.  i'll bring it up to the shoot chair 

on a shoot i put on two years ago, i had a triple bonus shot:  95 yard turkey! nasty, rainy, windy day, and a lot of guys still took the shot!      a couple hit it!     it was our Extreme Shoot, and i tried to make as challenging as possible.  not just long shot, but obscured ones, vertical ones, sitting/kneeling, etc... it was a lot of fun!

[BULLBLASTER]

for the extreme shoot I like those kind of shots, but I don't think they should be bonus... have an extreme class that has to shoot at them.
for the record I hit that turkey! barely... but got foam.  the tiny bear on the other side that was out there a ways with a apple on its head got me tho!

[724wd]

i hit that apple, but my arrows weigh so much, the force whipped it and bent the arrow!     the downside to aluminum...  took the 55 yard over the 95 yard turkey.  my arrows die after 60 yards 

[Instinct]

is the shoot still on.even with the snow?

[724wd]

it's the SNOW SHOOT!  of course it's on!     

and you can register NOW at evergreenarcheryclub.org!  Hit the PAY NOW button for easy registration and payment!

[Instinct]

lol alright I'll be there. I'll be the dude with the pink/black destroyer 350

[alwinearcher]

The course was setup well today.

I will say I would like to see you guys start counting an 11 ring like organized shoots do.

We also got yelled at for shooting the flat range after the 3D shoot was over...
Apparently it was "closed" but no one had said anything?
For the past 10 years we've always shot the flat range after 3D shoots, but apparently that wasn't ok today?
Also they didn't do a "awards ceremony" like they normally do.

Fun shoot today, even though it was cold!

[returnofsid]

Sure wish my son, daughter and I could have made it.  Between my daughter's dance schedule, the fact that my arrows still have broad heads on them...and that my bow is in our travel trailer, in storage, we weren't able to make it work.  I even thought about going, just to take pictures, but that didn't happen either.

Glad to hear it was an enjoyable time.  From the Facebook posts I've seen, sounds like A LOT of people had a great time!!

[724wd]

Matt, we'll take the 11 under advisement. 

as to the closed range, I got a call from the shoot chairman (who is the one that yelled at you) that HE got a complaint about the proximity of the dinosaur target to the back of the course.  I wasn't there for setup of the course, but when i pulled that target, i could easily see the concern!  straight shot from the back of the course!  we'll be discussing that at our next meeting.     I agree with the decision to halt shooting until that target was pulled, but notice should have been handled better.

also, with trophies.  I think Rob was expecting people to pick up their award whenever they were leaving, as lots of people were turning in scores and not sticking around.  We'll work towards a solution to that, as well!

Thanks for the feedback, and hope to see everyone back for the IBO March 20-30!

Heath

[alwinearcher]

Matt, we'll take the 11 under advisement. 

as to the closed range, I got a call from the shoot chairman (who is the one that yelled at you) that HE got a complaint about the proximity of the dinosaur target to the back of the course.  I wasn't there for setup of the course, but when i pulled that target, i could easily see the concern!  straight shot from the back of the course!  we'll be discussing that at our next meeting.     I agree with the decision to halt shooting until that target was pulled, but notice should have been handled better.

also, with trophies.  I think Rob was expecting people to pick up their award whenever they were leaving, as lots of people were turning in scores and not sticking around.  We'll work towards a solution to that, as well!

Thanks for the feedback, and hope to see everyone back for the IBO March 20-30!

Heath

Yeah we knew that Dino was behind the target butts but thought it had been pulled long before we had started shooting, and there hadn't been any kind of announcement about not shooting the butts, so we didn't know any better.

11 ring would be awesome! I know a lot of shooters don't care much one way or the other on 11 ring scoring, but the more serious competitors all enjoy it.

I look forward to the IBO coming up, its always a fun shoot!

[724wd]

Matt, can I ask what the difference is between scoring an X and an 11? 

[alwinearcher]

Matt, can I ask what the difference is between scoring an X and an 11?

An 11 ring gives you the ability to make up for a bad shot or blown yardage..

With as many good shooters as we have if you shoot one or two 8's you will be out of the game because there is no way to make up for lost ground.
With a 11 count I can shoot an 8 and then shoot two 11's in a row to try and make up for my mistake.
It adds more excitement to the game which is why all the major 3D organizations have some type of inner scoring (ASA, IBO)

With the current system if one guy shoots an 8, he cant do anything to correct it. All he can do is hope his buddies also shoot an 8.
It changes the mentality from "I can shoot good and make up for this" to "Man I hope he misses"

[724wd]

AHA!  Thanks for that explanation.  i guess as a guy that knows he won't be near the top of the leaderboard I never considered that!   

This year's 3D shoots have already been advertised with non-IBO rules (other than the IBO, obviously!) but I'll add it to the minutes to bring up for next year.  As long as we can take only the scoring from IBO and not all 1,543 shooter classes, I'm good with the change!   

[alwinearcher]

AHA!  Thanks for that explanation.  i guess as a guy that knows he won't be near the top of the leaderboard I never considered that!   

This year's 3D shoots have already been advertised with non-IBO rules (other than the IBO, obviously!) but I'll add it to the minutes to bring up for next year.  As long as we can take only the scoring from IBO and not all 1,543 shooter classes, I'm good with the change!   

Yeah you dont need to take all the IBO rules!
Just say "scoring 11, 10, 8, 5"
The Cataldo shoot finely started doing this after we complained for 10 years

[returnofsid]

My daughter and I will definitely be there, participating in the March shoot!!