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Steve Hobbs D 44 votes pro gun.
Quote from: blackdog on February 11, 2014, 05:47:07 PMSteve Hobbs D 44 votes pro gun. Really? Because he voted for Hope's firearm offender registry bill last year which the NRA was against...
Quote from: grundy53 on February 11, 2014, 04:05:25 PM I happen to be one of his constituents and I vote republican. He definitely isn't representing me the way I would want him to. Would you rather have Hope representing your district or 3 Democrats (which could be possible next year)?
I happen to be one of his constituents and I vote republican. He definitely isn't representing me the way I would want him to.
Quote from: bigtex on February 11, 2014, 04:16:35 PMQuote from: grundy53 on February 11, 2014, 04:05:25 PM I happen to be one of his constituents and I vote republican. He definitely isn't representing me the way I would want him to. Would you rather have Hope representing your district or 3 Democrats (which could be possible next year)?Really one and the same isn't it?
Quote from: WSU on February 11, 2014, 04:26:48 PMQuote from: bigtex on February 11, 2014, 09:38:48 AMQuote from: huntnphool on February 11, 2014, 09:22:38 AMQuote from: bigtex on February 10, 2014, 10:48:24 PMQuote from: Lucky1 on February 10, 2014, 10:37:01 PMBig Tex. You stirred the pot when you supported Mr Hope in your post. If I can ask a personal question. Do you think the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee?The legislature had no plans to actually try and pass the two gun initiatives this year, the hearings they had two weeks ago were simply symbolic. Everybody knew the initiatives were going to go the voters and not acted upon by the legislature. And yes I do believe that the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee. Even had a gun control bill passed out of the committee it would have had to pass the entire House, then the Republican led Senate. It's not like if Hope was on the committee and gave the decisive vote we were all doomed. Of course Hope isn't going to say it's retaliation, he's not going to say his party is retaliating against him.So are you saying he would have voted the other way if there was a chance of it passing?Explain to me why he voted the way he did then, what possible reason would he vote for it if he knew his constituents were against it, regardless if he thought it would pass or not?I'm saying his vote wouldn't have been detrimental to gun control in WA. He could've given the decisive vote to get the vote out of committee, but the bill would still go to a full house vote, then to a republican led committee in the senate, then the full vote before the republican led senate.Like I said in another post, every single bill in 2013-14 requires bipartisanship and more then just one party member going against his own party. We are in rare times in Olympia where typically the Dems control both houses so simply having a majority of the Dems voting in favor means a bill becomes a law. Since the House is controlled by the Dems and the Senate by the Republicans there needs to be bipartisanship on everything.I don't know why he voted the way he did, it must have been personal opinion. Just like the other sponsored Republican legislation which essentially goes against the party platform.This is over simplified. A lot of what legislation passes, doesn't pass, gets debated, ends up in the news, etc., etc. is a direct result of what gets out of committee. Control of the various committees is a powerful political tool.The Republicans don't control the House Judiciary (or any House Committee) this year.There are hundreds of bills that make it out of committee and that's as far as they make it, they don't even get a full house vote. You cant say that Hope's yes vote would be the end all and would automatically put it on Inslee's desk.
Quote from: bigtex on February 11, 2014, 09:38:48 AMQuote from: huntnphool on February 11, 2014, 09:22:38 AMQuote from: bigtex on February 10, 2014, 10:48:24 PMQuote from: Lucky1 on February 10, 2014, 10:37:01 PMBig Tex. You stirred the pot when you supported Mr Hope in your post. If I can ask a personal question. Do you think the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee?The legislature had no plans to actually try and pass the two gun initiatives this year, the hearings they had two weeks ago were simply symbolic. Everybody knew the initiatives were going to go the voters and not acted upon by the legislature. And yes I do believe that the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee. Even had a gun control bill passed out of the committee it would have had to pass the entire House, then the Republican led Senate. It's not like if Hope was on the committee and gave the decisive vote we were all doomed. Of course Hope isn't going to say it's retaliation, he's not going to say his party is retaliating against him.So are you saying he would have voted the other way if there was a chance of it passing?Explain to me why he voted the way he did then, what possible reason would he vote for it if he knew his constituents were against it, regardless if he thought it would pass or not?I'm saying his vote wouldn't have been detrimental to gun control in WA. He could've given the decisive vote to get the vote out of committee, but the bill would still go to a full house vote, then to a republican led committee in the senate, then the full vote before the republican led senate.Like I said in another post, every single bill in 2013-14 requires bipartisanship and more then just one party member going against his own party. We are in rare times in Olympia where typically the Dems control both houses so simply having a majority of the Dems voting in favor means a bill becomes a law. Since the House is controlled by the Dems and the Senate by the Republicans there needs to be bipartisanship on everything.I don't know why he voted the way he did, it must have been personal opinion. Just like the other sponsored Republican legislation which essentially goes against the party platform.This is over simplified. A lot of what legislation passes, doesn't pass, gets debated, ends up in the news, etc., etc. is a direct result of what gets out of committee. Control of the various committees is a powerful political tool.
Quote from: huntnphool on February 11, 2014, 09:22:38 AMQuote from: bigtex on February 10, 2014, 10:48:24 PMQuote from: Lucky1 on February 10, 2014, 10:37:01 PMBig Tex. You stirred the pot when you supported Mr Hope in your post. If I can ask a personal question. Do you think the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee?The legislature had no plans to actually try and pass the two gun initiatives this year, the hearings they had two weeks ago were simply symbolic. Everybody knew the initiatives were going to go the voters and not acted upon by the legislature. And yes I do believe that the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee. Even had a gun control bill passed out of the committee it would have had to pass the entire House, then the Republican led Senate. It's not like if Hope was on the committee and gave the decisive vote we were all doomed. Of course Hope isn't going to say it's retaliation, he's not going to say his party is retaliating against him.So are you saying he would have voted the other way if there was a chance of it passing?Explain to me why he voted the way he did then, what possible reason would he vote for it if he knew his constituents were against it, regardless if he thought it would pass or not?I'm saying his vote wouldn't have been detrimental to gun control in WA. He could've given the decisive vote to get the vote out of committee, but the bill would still go to a full house vote, then to a republican led committee in the senate, then the full vote before the republican led senate.Like I said in another post, every single bill in 2013-14 requires bipartisanship and more then just one party member going against his own party. We are in rare times in Olympia where typically the Dems control both houses so simply having a majority of the Dems voting in favor means a bill becomes a law. Since the House is controlled by the Dems and the Senate by the Republicans there needs to be bipartisanship on everything.I don't know why he voted the way he did, it must have been personal opinion. Just like the other sponsored Republican legislation which essentially goes against the party platform.
Quote from: bigtex on February 10, 2014, 10:48:24 PMQuote from: Lucky1 on February 10, 2014, 10:37:01 PMBig Tex. You stirred the pot when you supported Mr Hope in your post. If I can ask a personal question. Do you think the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee?The legislature had no plans to actually try and pass the two gun initiatives this year, the hearings they had two weeks ago were simply symbolic. Everybody knew the initiatives were going to go the voters and not acted upon by the legislature. And yes I do believe that the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee. Even had a gun control bill passed out of the committee it would have had to pass the entire House, then the Republican led Senate. It's not like if Hope was on the committee and gave the decisive vote we were all doomed. Of course Hope isn't going to say it's retaliation, he's not going to say his party is retaliating against him.So are you saying he would have voted the other way if there was a chance of it passing?Explain to me why he voted the way he did then, what possible reason would he vote for it if he knew his constituents were against it, regardless if he thought it would pass or not?
Quote from: Lucky1 on February 10, 2014, 10:37:01 PMBig Tex. You stirred the pot when you supported Mr Hope in your post. If I can ask a personal question. Do you think the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee?The legislature had no plans to actually try and pass the two gun initiatives this year, the hearings they had two weeks ago were simply symbolic. Everybody knew the initiatives were going to go the voters and not acted upon by the legislature. And yes I do believe that the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee. Even had a gun control bill passed out of the committee it would have had to pass the entire House, then the Republican led Senate. It's not like if Hope was on the committee and gave the decisive vote we were all doomed. Of course Hope isn't going to say it's retaliation, he's not going to say his party is retaliating against him.
Big Tex. You stirred the pot when you supported Mr Hope in your post. If I can ask a personal question. Do you think the Republican leadership should have left him on the committee?
Quote from: huntnphool on February 11, 2014, 11:20:51 PMQuote from: bigtex on February 11, 2014, 04:16:35 PMQuote from: grundy53 on February 11, 2014, 04:05:25 PM I happen to be one of his constituents and I vote republican. He definitely isn't representing me the way I would want him to. Would you rather have Hope representing your district or 3 Democrats (which could be possible next year)?Really one and the same isn't it? Could there be another reason that you seem to defend Mr. Hope..........___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ ALL copied from his siteAs a Seattle police officer, I deal with tragic circumstances all too often. I see the patterns of criminals and know how important it is for people to feel safe on their own streets. We need to make sure people are held accountable for their actions and that victims are put first. I was proud to sponsor the Lakewood Police Officers Memorial Act, which was approved by voters in November 2010, to limit bail for the the most dangerous repeat criminals.contact me and give me your feedback. I hope you’ll continue checking back and help me be a better representative for you and your interests.Mike Hope State Representative 44th District (R – Lake Stevens) 466 John L. O'Brien Building | P.O. Box 40600 | Olympia, WA 98504-0600(360) 786-7892 | Toll-free: (800) 562-6000 Recent News:•Hope’s bill to reduce gun violence becomes law•Hope’s bill to reduce gun violence passes Senate policy committee•Two 44th District teens serve as legislative pages•Hope’s bill to reduce gun violence passes the House Mike Hope In the News:• Rep. Hope honored by state's largest gun control advocacy group - In the Legislature - The Olympian - Olympia, Washington news, weather and sports • Rep. Mike Hope For Background Checks | KUOW News and Information • NRA ups pressure on Wash. lawmakers (kirotv.com) • Proposed bill would register gun violators like sex offenders (kgw.com) • Proposed gun law targets offenders, not responsible gun owners (The Dori Monson Show)
Bigtex can you provide documentation of NRA opposition to that firearm offender registry bill?
