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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2014, 09:21:20 PM »
Possible Fallow deer genetics...

Southwest Washington - escaped Fallow deer
http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=10978.0

Fallow deer ranch in Northeastern Washington - Selkirk Mtn's
http://schuermanranch.com/


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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2014, 05:26:06 AM »
There are no exotics up here in Stevens County and we have deer that look Exactly like the one posted. Not a cross breed.Period
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2014, 07:07:23 AM »
Not a cross breed Period!? :chuckle:.. People here and there all over this state have been known to raise exotics as live stock .
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2014, 09:17:22 AM »
Period...As I said I have fed this particular mulie doe (winter,spring,summer,and fall) for 7 years and her offspring are the ones with the same spots along the spine as the one posted. I spend countless hours in the woods around this area and guess what...no Axis deer or other exotics have been seen by me or talked about by the locals. I have even seen this doe bred by a big 3x3 a couple years ago in my back yard. :dunno:     So I'm gonna steal a favorite line from your beloved pres..."If you like your exotic theory, you can keep it. Period" :hello:
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2014, 10:18:46 AM »
Well there's a herd of roughly 400 deer that I try and keep tabs on in this area and I've yet to see one fallow or axis deer amongst em...or a decent buck :dunno:
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2014, 12:05:31 PM »
There are no exotics up here in Stevens County and we have deer that look Exactly like the one posted. Not a cross breed.Period

How many Fallow deer does it take to establish Fallow deer genetics in a Mule deer herd with their offspring?  I believe the answer is one (1). 
How many times does a Fallow deer need to mate with a Mule deer in order to pass on it's genetics to the offspring?  I believe the answer is once.
Will the offspring pass those genetics off to future offspring?  Yes.
Do genetics transfer within larger groups of deer? Yes. 

'Period' is an assumption and not a definitive fact.

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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2014, 12:30:33 PM »
Period...As I said I have fed this particular mulie doe (winter,spring,summer,and fall) for 7 years and her offspring are the ones with the same spots along the spine as the one posted. I spend countless hours in the woods around this area and guess what...no Axis deer or other exotics have been seen by me or talked about by the locals. I have even seen this doe bred by a big 3x3 a couple years ago in my back yard. :dunno:     So I'm gonna steal a favorite line from your beloved pres..."If you like your exotic theory, you can keep it. Period" :hello:


Well seeing how the offspring of an animal only care over 29% of their parents characteristic genetics, with the rest coming from the grand parents. It is possible the doe is the result of a cross. Thus making all her kids have the pattern... oh I guess I should add  Period.  :chuckle:

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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2014, 01:07:09 PM »
You guys crack me up. Has anyone on this forum Ever seen a Sitka deer or Fallow deer in the wild while hunting in Washington State? And then to think they are breeding mulie does is an unbelievable stretch of the imagination. Period....
And Billy Joe's cousin's neighbor's grandpa seen one in the Clockum does not count...PERIOD  ( My new favorite saying) :IBCOOL:
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2014, 01:13:28 PM »
There are no exotics up here in Stevens County and we have deer that look Exactly like the one posted. Not a cross breed.Period

The Schuerman ranch that Pygmy linked above is less than 10 miles east of Colville off highway 20 and is most definitely in Stevens County. And their website pictures show pictures of Fallow deer and people who have harvested Fallow deer and a price list for hunting Fallow deer. I'd say there are or were at one time "exotics" in Stevens county.

Not saying this deer is a crossbreed, just that the possibility is there.
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2014, 01:33:52 PM »
So this Fallow deer escaped the ranch 10 miles from Colville then traveled 50 miles across the Huckleberry Range and bred my tame doe or her grandparents in the back yard... Possible??  You guys REALLY crack me up..Period... Gotta go now and look for that Grizzly/ Black bear cross I've heard about up at Jeb's Uncle's neighbor's property.They do cross-breed..I saw it on the internet. :sry:
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2014, 01:59:29 PM »
So this Fallow deer escaped the ranch 10 miles from Colville then traveled 50 miles across the Huckleberry Range and bred my tame doe or her grandparents in the back yard... Possible??  You guys REALLY crack me up..Period... Gotta go now and look for that Grizzly/ Black bear cross I've heard about up at Jeb's Uncle's neighbor's property.They do cross-breed..I saw it on the internet. :sry:

Everyone has heard about what goes on in that part of the state...with all species  :yike: - exclamation point.   :chuckle:

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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2014, 02:24:42 PM »
So this Fallow deer escaped the ranch 10 miles from Colville then traveled 50 miles across the Huckleberry Range and bred my tame doe or her grandparents in the back yard... Possible??  You guys REALLY crack me up..Period... Gotta go now and look for that Grizzly/ Black bear cross I've heard about up at Jeb's Uncle's neighbor's property.They do cross-breed..I saw it on the internet. :sry:

I wasn't saying anything of the kind. Just pointing out that when you said there were no exotics in Stevens Country, you were wrong.

As for cross breeding, it can happen. A reason Sika deer are banned from Washington State is that they can cross breed with elk.
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2014, 02:27:08 PM »
There are no exotics up here in Stevens County and we have deer that look Exactly like the one posted. Not a cross breed.Period
Ok smart guy then what is your explanation. Cross bred with an exotic makes sense & is entirely possible. You posted the pic asking people what could be the cause.
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2014, 02:38:41 PM »
 Sitka..  Guess I should have said   Wild Free Ranging exotics in Stevens County... The odds of it happening are  well...the same as Obama telling the truth.. Period

And turkeyfeather..I was NOT the one to post the picture asking what could be the cause...That was MrMykiss. By the way I would ask MrMykiss where he took the photo. Looks like somewhere in the sagebrush. So this Sitka/Fallow deer that bred my backyard doe travelled across eastern wash to breed MrMykiss' doe.. Busy guy..".Entirely possible".. You guys crack me up  Period
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Re: Thoughts on this doe
« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2014, 02:43:04 PM »
Sitka..  Guess I should have said   Wild Free Ranging exotics in Stevens County... The odds of it happening are  well...the same as Obama telling the truth.. Period

And turkeyfeather..I was NOT the one to post the picture asking what could be the cause...That was MrMykiss. By the way I would ask MrMykiss where he took the photo. Looks like somewhere in the sagebrush. So this Sitka/Fallow deer that bred my backyard doe travelled across eastern wash to breed MrMykiss' doe.. Busy guy..".Entirely possible".. You guys crack me up  Period
My mistake on you posting the pic. However you avoided the question.
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