Ghosts of the Rockies newest trailer

[TriggerMike]

A third trailer for Ghosts of the Rockies was published yesterday. Does anyone know when the entire documentary is going to be released? I'm getting mixed reports. For those of you unfamiliar with Ghosts of the Rockies I've provided the links to the first two trailers below the most recent trailer.

Ghost's Of The Rockies Trailer


Ghosts of the Rockies

Ghosts Of the Rockies~second trailer

[jon.brown509]

  this is just as bad as a wolf lovers dream fluffy dog documentary
 

[wolfbait]

  this is just as bad as a wolf lovers dream fluffy dog documentary

Actually what you don't like about this documentary, are the facts, how many people on W-H can lie anymore. This documentary will expose the truth.

Those who live in wolf country, and have do deal with wolves daily understand the corruption of WDFW and the USFWS. It just isn't biologists, it is a Top Down problem, starting with the environmentalists who make money suing, and then we have the USFWS run by environmentalists, how could any of you expect a wolf delisting ever?

Each time the wolves are threatened, the USFWS play the game of delisting. If you like your health plan you can keep it--------How many times has the health plan been postponed? 28 times. I could keep going but I think you get the drift.

[wolfbait]

Thanks for your post, TriggerMike!!!

[jon.brown509]

  this is just as bad as a wolf lovers dream fluffy dog documentary

Actually what you don't like about this documentary, are the facts, how many people on W-H can lie anymore. This documentary will expose the truth.

Those who live in wolf country, and have do deal with wolves daily understand the corruption of WDFW and the USFWS. It just isn't biologists, it is a Top Down problem, starting with the environmentalists who make money suing, and then we have the USFWS run by environmentalists, how could any of you expect a wolf delisting ever?

Each time the wolves are threatened, the USFWS play the game of delisting. If you like your health plan you can keep it--------How many times has the health plan been postponed? 28 times. I could keep going but I think you get the drift.
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How well this expose the truth ? really ?  :tinfoil:this makes me think of people that think these are facts. This is ridiculous how one crazy nutjob gets a camera to show his "facts" but he get's discredited/proven wrong/extremely uneducated in wildlife by everyone even other wolf nut jobs don't like him. He's the "dick chaney" of anti wolf people,  Now I'm not saying it's not interesting to watch and see the view of a kill all extremist in person.But lil FYI I have lived with wolves and Grizzly's on one of the largest dairy farms in Montana.Wanna talk about living with predators? scott rockholm is a anti wolf nutjob he also made a short fairytale called "Yellowstone is dead" Which scientifically proven and fact check your self  isn't dead yellowstone is as stable as ever this is just  one man on a mission to kill the ecosystem and damage elk herds in more ways than any number of wolves could because he want's Only Elk everywhere and has no respect for other wildlife what so ever.

[AspenBud]

A third trailer for Ghosts of the Rockies was published yesterday. Does anyone know when the entire documentary is going to be released?

What's the rush when you can make short propaganda pieces and keep the debate bubbling. One big "documentary" that will get very little attention would be a flash in the pan.

[TriggerMike]

A third trailer for Ghosts of the Rockies was published yesterday. Does anyone know when the entire documentary is going to be released?

What's the rush when you can make short propaganda pieces and keep the debate bubbling. One big "documentary" that will get very little attention would be a flash in the pan.

That's a good point. I was just curious if anyone knew since it was originally supposed to be released Fall 2013.

[MtnMuley]

Thanks for the post.  I too, have been waiting for the documentary to finally come out.

[bigmacc]

I am not a"black helocopter"guy or a "conspericy theory" guy but i will say that something is fishy,very fishy with this whole wolf thing.I myself have hunted in an area that dept folks have said were not "wolf areas" but i have seen wolf sign,i have seen wolf tracks and i have seen the remains of wolf kills(and yes i know the difference).An area that is in a close vicinity to where wolves are known to be but was told the actual area i was in was void of wolves ,...QUOTE-"what your seeing, OR THE LACK OF GAME are not signs of wolves".I have seen with my own eyes with over 50 years of hunting,hiking and learning the game and area i,m hunting to see something besides the average yote,cougar or bear population (or even a growing population of these three) has entered the mix and is taking a toll.In closing,wolves are expanding their turf at a pace that if you blink you could miss the mass migration and the new establishment of these critters.Do i see less game animals? YES...Do i see more bear and cat sign? SLIGHTLY....but not that much.I think a new predator is on the scene that has made an impact on the herds that i and my family have had the pleasure of observing and have had the honor of hunting for decades.Is it an agenda?...I dont know if i,m going there but i will say it again.......something is very fishy....very fishy!

[wolfbait]

A third trailer for Ghosts of the Rockies was published yesterday. Does anyone know when the entire documentary is going to be released?

What's the rush when you can make short propaganda pieces and keep the debate bubbling. One big "documentary" that will get very little attention would be a flash in the pan.

The Cool thing about Scott Rockholm's wolf documentaries is they show the other side, with facts and real people.  They can be shown to those who have no clue, or are undecided.

Conservation NW and Defenders of Wildlife (water packers for the USFWS and WDFW) only have cry your eyes out, begging for money documentaries.

Big difference in the truth and begging>>>>>>>>For money to save the wolves!!!

[Special T]

I look forward to this one. IMO Yellowstone is Dead  had the right idea but lacked documentation and could have done better on selling the message. I would bet that this one has more of the facts and does a better job of selling the message.

I don't agree with Scott 100% BUT he has done yeomen work on gathering information and trying to spread the word. My main hope is that he has learned from his past experiences. Repetition is KEY to sales, and just because some one is skeptical does not make them a bunny hugging wolf loving hippy.

[wolfbait]

I look forward to this one. IMO Yellowstone is Dead  had the right idea but lacked documentation and could have done better on selling the message. I would bet that this one has more of the facts and does a better job of selling the message.

I don't agree with Scott 100% BUT he has done yeomen work on gathering information and trying to spread the word. My main hope is that he has learned from his past experiences. Repetition is KEY to sales, and just because some one is skeptical does not make them a bunny hugging wolf loving hippy.

It's sometimes hard to understand the fight unless you have been in it for awhile. I suppose it is also hard to understand, for some, to watch your state game agency lie time after time, ignore the impact wolves are having on game herds and livestock. And watch the USFSW do the same.

I'm sure that most of you will be very understanding after 10 more years of lies from WDFW and the USFWS.

Maybe it's true WDFW just needs to buy more land, Habitat…..


 

[jon.brown509]

A third trailer for Ghosts of the Rockies was published yesterday. Does anyone know when the entire documentary is going to be released?

What's the rush when you can make short propaganda pieces and keep the debate bubbling. One big "documentary" that will get very little attention would be a flash in the pan.

The Cool thing about Scott Rockholm's wolf documentaries is they show the other side, with facts and real people.  They can be shown to those who have no clue, or are undecided.

Conservation NW and Defenders of Wildlife (water packers for the USFWS and WDFW) only have cry your eyes out, begging for money documentaries.

Big difference in the truth and begging>>>>>>>>For money to save the wolves!!!

 This documentary is about as accurate as Obama care ,full of crap 

[bigmacc]

 Mr jon.brown509.... can you answer this one question-where have the numbers of game animals gone that we once enjoyed.A simple question that comes from many.No need for a complicated discussion with me on this but a simple answer would be fine,not looking to go toe to toe with you or have this go sideways.Sometimes we seem to try to over complicate an issue with all the jibberish.The simple fact is that game numbers are decreasing since the whole wolf issue has come to light.Is it a fluke or something else thats depleting the herds?Or could wolves actually be taking a toll?In my humble opinion it seems that the fact of depleting herds and decreasing opportunities to harvest game along with growing wolf numbers are not a coincidence.Not that complicated in my book,but then again lots of blows to the head and maybe one to many years spent in the ring could have taken its toll

[jon.brown509]

 They went down to carrying capacity simple answer.The Environment  can't handle Elk or deer above there carrying capacity for very long before they crash ,Yes we all lose a lil bit of hunting opportunity's but you still get the chance to go out and get one  that well never change.We had a over population problem with elk and deer primarily elk ,They were out of habit  and caught out grazing in the open of meadows in places were elk would never normally graze due to lack of apex predators  and everything suffered ,Now i'm not giving all credit or even half to wolves like too many knuckleheads due,But with what were seeing in YNP it's amazing to watch the place return to normal as elk have been around 4,000 "the Carrying population is about 5,000 on the park" the last 4-5 years ,What's even better is that  now the wolves are starting to go after more buffalo "like they were supposed to in the first place"  and the park is returning to normal.
 Bottom line Is that wolves due take a toll on animals and they well never eat them selves out of food or over populate the  Environment they're in.Everyone around YNP thinks that 20,000 to 10,000 is were it's supposed to be but that's almost 4 times the carrying population ,so now that it's normal everyone is freaking out about it when it has been ridiculously high for most there lives to see it return to normal the last 5 years or so does that make since?