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Offline WAcoyotehunter

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Cougar Management Removal Program
« on: February 18, 2014, 03:15:15 PM »
What a joke.  I just go off the phone with WDFW rep discussing the Cougar Removal program.  Of course all the permits are taken, I didn't get one, which is pretty standard.  He was lamenting about the number of calls he had to make to get the 17 permits issued because so many people on the list didn't have hounds. 

The rule requires applicants to own hounds....of course the majority of the applicants know someone that does or just figure they can find someone to take them.  Another example of hound owners getting screwed around. 

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2014, 04:00:55 PM »
 :'( :chuckle:  I feel the same way......what a joke. >:(

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2014, 04:03:56 PM »
 :chuckle: have you seen the list? its like 4 pages of wild ids...
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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2014, 07:23:44 PM »
One guy that got drawn is from california to hunt in the Methow but yet there are residents that have hounds that dont get drawn.   :bash: :bash:

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2014, 07:37:33 PM »
What a friggin crock, I dont have hounds anymore :'( if for some reason I got drawn, I would decline it or call one of the houndsman on this sight to see if we could make it work, but out of staters getting drawn, wtf that is a crock of chit, wdfw has got to get some people in there with some common Damn sense...
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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2014, 07:57:44 PM »
I know,  I talked on phone last week and explain to them about their Biologlist has done wrong to me by telling me to go somewhere else and I pull my dogs back and left since the cut  would need to be killed not collared that WDFW expect me to kill and hoping they would give me a another permit since Biologlist bully me out of the Canyon and after March 2011 got banned I sent my dog over MT to chase as much as she can and if I ever draw I will go get it and start hunt my Cat.
My friend has 6 hounds and his son draw but had to work, it snow really good since last Friday till now and still he haven't go yet.
Anyway Wa System Sucks!    >:(

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2014, 08:59:35 PM »
I had two hounds too ,gave them away to better homes.Dog food bill was killing me and never got to takem hunting anyway so i agree WA cougar rules suck.

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2014, 10:52:45 PM »
I had a couple of dog run in front of my camera back in December, I have never hunted with dogs, I assume these dogs were being used to hunt?

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2014, 06:49:08 AM »
looks like a blue tick and maybe a blue tick /walker cross, they both had collars on, they were probably one of the lucky few that drew a cat permit  :dunno: you didnt have any cat picks on your camera? wonder what the dogs were trailing
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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2014, 07:19:00 AM »
I find it funny how over 700 guys applied for these permits that you are required to own hounds to be eligible.... I would bet their is around 100 guys in WA that have real hunting hounds  :twocents: . WDFW should have set this up much more professionally, but it doesn't surprise me

The one dog in the pic looks like a high tan

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2014, 08:29:07 AM »
looks like a blue tick and maybe a blue tick /walker cross, they both had collars on, they were probably one of the lucky few that drew a cat permit  :dunno: you didnt have any cat picks on your camera? wonder what the dogs were trailing
I did not have a cougar just before the dogs were ther but I always get cougar pic in this area, in fact he always seem to be around. I got this pic after the dog had been there on a different cam about 100 yard away.

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2014, 09:46:02 AM »
How could a californian draw that tag? I read the rules and it said only Washington residents that owned hounds? I must be blind cause i only the the one dog the blue tick.   

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2014, 10:07:08 AM »
The whole system is a joke. I did hear of a local guy who has several hounds get a wenatchee tag. An out-of-state houndsman shouldn't be awarded these permits. I don't see how that is possible.

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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2014, 10:15:21 AM »
It would appear that the WDFW didn't proceed with "due diligence" to make sure the tags were actually going to be used. Likely Peta and other bunny huggers put in for the tags.
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Re: Cougar Management Removal Program
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2014, 10:27:50 AM »
http://wdfw.wa.gov/licensing/cougar_mgmt_removal/

Permit issuance procedure

•To be eligible for a cougar management removal permit (permit), the participant must be a Washington resident dog hunter (i.e., owns and hunts with dogs that are capable of detecting, tracking and treeing a cougar) who possesses a valid big game license with cougar as a species option. The permit holder must use dogs while participating in a cougar management removal.
•Individuals eligible for participation in a cougar management removal will be randomly selected from the participant list.
•This is a public safety cougar removal administrated by a WDFW designated coordinator. Individuals on the participant list will be contacted on an as-needed basis to conduct removals in portions of GMUs. Not all individuals on the participant list will be contacted in a given year.
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